Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 263404)

Most of the bad I hear said about Levis is some find his brash personality offputting....seriously, some of the best QBs to ever play were somewhat brash and hit some people the wrong way. I think he is just trying to project confidence and may be overdoing a bit.

There are also some sports media writers that just don't like alpha males, because they aren't one!

Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 263404)

Most of the bad I hear said about Levis is some find his brash personality offputting....seriously, some of the best QBs to ever play were somewhat brash and hit some people the wrong way. I think he is just trying to project confidence and may be overdoing a bit.

There are also some sports media writers that just don't like alpha males, because they aren't one!

Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 263348)

Levis' biggest concern IMO is a lack of touch. Everything comes out as a fastball. Comes from his footwork. He was working with a good QB guru in the offseason and did show some improvement on his pro day especially throwing to his left.

I think some of the Wentz comparisons come from that pigeon toe throwing and lack of touch (also bc he is white and a similar size and he runs). Wentz couldn't fix his issue, Allen did, does he have the work ethic to do it?

He was also hurt last season including a turf toe which kills your mobility and your throwing depending on the leg.

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 263352)

I listened to the Panthers' QB coach do a film study on Levis (in the other thread if you haven't seen it). He says a lot of this ^^. His arm is very impressive and he can make throws with little wind-up when pressure is in his face. He also processes his reads fine but is able to, for example in the video, skip the open underneath out route and instead fire from the opposite hash to the numbers on a 10-yard hitch for a good gain.

However, he mentions that it's one of the biggest concerns about him as well. Because of the strength and talent, he makes some bad decisions as well as missing some throws even without pressure. As McCown says, you have to find out if he has a governor on this Ferrari or are you going to be one of those guys that's always going to fire a cannon.

For me, the Wentz comparison is about the mechanics and inconsistent accuracy + the toughness + the really strong arm that can lead to both awesome plays and bad decisions. It's like that awesome throw Wentz made against Arizona right before he was clobbered... that's great. But it also came in a package deal that included all the other shit he did that drove us nuts.

Depending on if he takes to coaching, Levis gives me the same worries.

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 263374)

WHY would you help a team in your conference? WTF

You = bag of hammers

Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 263411)

Wait until Dam finds out Levis has a higher completion percentage than Stroud when under pressure. Just say'n, no reason..........lol....

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 263422)

Until you define what "under pressure" means, that's an irrelevant statistic. Who cares if Levis can stand in the pocket and take a shot better? That sounds like higher injury risk to me. Stroud's way of dealing with pressure typically is to roll away from it and find an open receiver downfield.

Originally Posted by apballin (Post 263441)

I disagree with him thinking he’s a finished product, he realizes he needs improvement but that will come with playing time, so I believe he is a day 1 starter he’s a competitor and wants to be out there he doesn’t strike me as a guy that learns from the sideline. As far as him playing “hero ball” again he’s a competitor and he was trying to win while not having Harrison Jr to throw it up to

Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 263432)

Pass rush, any and all pass rush. It seems I mentioned Stroud performed poorly when the pocket is collapsing around him. However you're so infatuated with him you ignore any of his poor decisions.