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Dam8610 03-05-2022 11:25 AM

If they're going the free agency route for QB, I'd rather they take the home run swing with Winston than sign a guy like Bridgewater or especially Trubisky. Winston has the talent to develop into a franchise guy, and looked to be doing so before he got hurt under Sean Payton. And if he gets hurt or is a turnover machine again, he raises your draft stock. It seems like the perfect boom or bust move that gets the Colts to a franchise QB faster either way.

JAFF 03-05-2022 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 225056)
If they're going the free agency route for QB, I'd rather they take the home run swing with Winston than sign a guy like Bridgewater or especially Trubisky. Winston has the talent to develop into a franchise guy, and looked to be doing so before he got hurt under Sean Payton. And if he gets hurt or is a turnover machine again, he raises your draft stock. It seems like the perfect boom or bust move that gets the Colts to a franchise QB faster either way.

When he is on the field, he has big play ability. With the Colts O line and Taylor, it would make running play action a dream.

Brylok 03-05-2022 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 225052)
FWIW this guy agrees with you on Trubisky:

https://www.si.com/nfl/colts/news/es...-buffalo-bills

I have no idea what they're going to do, and I'm not advocating for Trubisky to come. I'm just being realistic as to who we can get.

JAFF 03-05-2022 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 225078)
I have no idea what they're going to do, and I'm not advocating for Trubisky to come. I'm just being realistic as to who we can get.

Realistic? In this place? Wwwhhhhhhaaaaaaatttttt?….

Oldcolt 03-05-2022 06:56 PM

No matter who we end up with we will have a shittier QB than elite teams we play. We need to improve this team in so many areas if we are going to have any chance whatsoever. It will be impossible without a ton of development of our young guys. These coach hires are incredibly important

Brylok 03-06-2022 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 225081)
Realistic? In this place? Wwwhhhhhhaaaaaaatttttt?….

There are still some people over on dotcom who think Luck is coming back. I'm like WTF?? Just delusional.

Brylok 03-06-2022 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 225085)
No matter who we end up with we will have a shittier QB than elite teams we play. We need to improve this team in so many areas if we are going to have any chance whatsoever. It will be impossible without a ton of development of our young guys. These coach hires are incredibly important

Yep. And they're hiring former players for coaching positions. Yikes.

IndyNorm 03-06-2022 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 224929)
He won the game against Jimmy. If you dont think the 9ers have more weapons I don't know what to tell ya. Both on offense and defense. and they only won one more game than the colts

Playoffs?

172 yds no TD. 1 int. vs Cowboys
131 yds. no TD. and 1 INT vs the packers
232 yds 2 TD and 1 game losing INT vs Rams

9ers won in spite of Jimmy

Their D is very good

And if he is so good why would they give him up for a 3rd ?

He's not better than Wentz

The 49ers have nowhere near the plethora of receiving weapons you seem to think they do. Samual and Kittle are great, no doubt. Their WR2 Aiyuk (at least statistically) is pretty good. After that there's a huge dropoff. Their 4th most productive receiver in '21 was a FB who racked up a total of 296 yards which is 17 ypg.

Also, while our receiving core definitely needs some upgrading especially at WR2, Wentz's inability to distribute the ball really hurt their production. I did a quick YoY analysis of yards per game for our receivers between '20 and '21 and most of the drop offs are staggering:

TY -35%
Pascal -39%
Hines -39%
MAC -29%
TE3 (Burton/Granson) -68%, although some of that is probably due to vet vs. rookie.

I don't think Jimmy G is our savior, but he's better than Wentz. Mostly b/c of how bad Wentz is.

Dam8610 03-06-2022 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 225085)
No matter who we end up with we will have a shittier QB than elite teams we play. We need to improve this team in so many areas if we are going to have any chance whatsoever. It will be impossible without a ton of development of our young guys. These coach hires are incredibly important

If they sign Winston and the light finishes coming on, that might not be the case. That's basically the only hope at this point, though, and it's not much of one.

JAFF 03-06-2022 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 225095)
Yep. And they're hiring former players for coaching positions. Yikes.

Because a former player like Dungy was a huge mistake


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