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apballin 04-01-2017 08:52 PM
With the additions in FA our division rivals made I'd expect us to draft O line in the1st to secure that unit vs the tough D lines the will play 6 times

Coltsalr 04-01-2017 09:46 PM
Foster/Cunningham/Davis in the 1st and then Williams/Lawson/Barnett in the 2nd.

Remake our LB corps and then start on the rest.

Dam8610 04-01-2017 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 8605)
Foster/Cunningham/Davis in the 1st and then Williams/Lawson/Barnett in the 2nd.

Remake our LB corps and then start on the rest.
Cunningham is widely viewed as a 2nd round pick. Reddick/Cunningham sounds like a great first two rounds, though.

Coltsalr 04-01-2017 10:46 PM
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Cunningham is widely viewed as a 2nd round pick. Reddick/Cunningham sounds like a great first two rounds, though.
That's what I had previously thought, but he seems to be rising up the boards lately. PFF has him as their #2, behind only Foster and as a Day One guy:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/dra...m_campaign=nfl

I'd love Reddick/Cunningham too, but I think the reality is that it's likely that all of Davis/Cunningham/Foster will be gone by the time we choose at 2/15. With that, I think the need to go ILB in the 1st is that much more pressing since I'm not high on Raekwon McMillian. I'd be fine with trading back in the 1st, if you don't see Davis/Cunningham as being worth #15 overall, but I do think we should ensure we come away with ILB on day one.

VeveJones007 04-02-2017 12:25 AM
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I'm not going to disagree. To this point Dorsett has sucked. But at the same time I believe that he's not being used properly.

How many times has been thrown a slant?

How many times has he been thrown a bubble screen?

How many times has he been thrown a crossing pattern?

None of the passes I mentioned above are difficult route concepts, even for a college WR. So, it's not that Dorsett can't run the routes.

I don't know what it is, but since Arians left, Pep and Chud have basically made defense only have to defend the middle to the deep portions of the field vertically.

I don't know if it's Luck's preference or a Pagano thing. But you just can't win in this day and age without making the defense defend the whole field.
There are too many times that he doesn't separate from a LB. That's egregious for a WR of his supposed skill-set.

omahacolt 04-02-2017 06:54 AM
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There are too many times that he doesn't separate from a LB. That's egregious for a WR of his supposed skill-set.
I don't recall that happening once

natagu23 04-02-2017 07:57 PM
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I don't recall that happening once
Me either.

VeveJones007 04-02-2017 09:12 PM
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I don't recall that happening once
Meh. Don't have a pass to archived games. Feel free to ignore it now, but try to watch for it in 2017.

Coltsalr 04-02-2017 10:36 PM
More and more, I'm really thinking that we should look to trade back in the 1st round.

Feel free to play around with the numbers, but the bottom line is, at #15, the value for that pick would be trading it for #25 and #57 (no we won't be getting those particular picks, Houston has them, but you get the idea, play around with the numbers) which I would do in a heartbeat. There's going to be plenty of value in the 1st/2nd round it appears, so getting more picks is the way to go, particularly when you consider the complete talent depletion that we have, we seem very primed to do so.

This is of course all contingent on how the board plays out. If Reuben Foster drops unexpectedly, then by all means, stay put.

Edited to add, here's the NFL Draft value chart:

http://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp

Butter 04-02-2017 11:14 PM
I am certainly not opposed to that idea if the right deal is there. We need so many pieces.


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