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CanuckColt 04-15-2017 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 9608)
Probably not, but why throw away a 4th rounder unless you are sure you want to pay him a huge contract next season?

It is probably a great deal to trade a 4th rounder for Richardson. 4th rounders have very low success rates...of 468 players taken in round 4 since 1999, 44 have started for 3 seasons or more, 20 have started for 5 seasons or more, 2 have started for 7 seasons or more.
The problem is doing a reasonable new contract and having the strong coaching and support to manage the guy...Pagano does not have the right stuff.
But Richardson is still only 26 (until Nov.29) and has a lot of football talent.
It is worth having a look-see.

Wyatt 04-17-2017 11:01 AM

@zkeefer
As expected, Colts TE Erik Swoope + WR Quan Bray signed their exclusive rights F.A. tenders. Swoope a big part of the offense moving forward

DrSpaceman 04-17-2017 12:18 PM

Not sure about Sheldon Richardson, mainly due to the salary. I don't think he is worth $8 million a year or whatever his contract is now.

DrSpaceman 04-17-2017 06:17 PM

Short with the Panthers was signed to a 5 year $80 million deal.

I know its different positions, but still makes Hankins seem like a bargain

omahacolt 04-17-2017 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 9818)
Short with the Panthers was signed to a 5 year $80 million deal.

I know its different positions, but still makes Hankins seem like a bargain

he is better than hankins

DrSpaceman 04-18-2017 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 9825)
he is better than hankins


He is $6 million a year better than Hankins?

Panthers D last year was not great after they decided to let their #1 corner leave

Dam8610 04-18-2017 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 9885)
He is $6 million a year better than Hankins?

Panthers D last year was not great after they decided to let their #1 corner leave

He's certainly not $50 million over the life of each contact better, and I like Short.

Wyatt 04-20-2017 02:43 PM

@RobDemovsky
Former VCU basketball player Mo Alie-Cox is signing with the Colts, per a source.

Wyatt 04-20-2017 02:50 PM

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...-nfl/24990861/

A little more on our new TE

Chromeburn 04-20-2017 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 10160)

I'm fine with the signing. However, they always use Gates as an example of a b-ball player turned football player. What they always forget to say also is that he put in many, many, many hours of work to become the player he was. It wasn't like he just said "I want to play football" and just transitioned. He had to work his ass off.

Wyatt 04-20-2017 04:24 PM

@pfrumors
Colts Sign LB Jon Bostic https://www.profootballrumors.com/20...-lb-jon-bostic …

Puck 04-21-2017 08:56 AM

Raiders release Dan Williams

https://www.profootballrumors.com/20...e-dan-williams

Wyatt 04-21-2017 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 10159)
@RobDemovsky
Former VCU basketball player Mo Alie-Cox is signing with the Colts, per a source.

We will be lucky if he can develop into 1/2 of the football player that Gronk is, but just for comparison sakes

Mo Alie Cox
6' 7" - 250lbs
4.75 40 yd

Rob Gronkowski
6' 6" - 258lbs
4.68 40 yd

Eric Swoope
6' 5" - 257lbs
4.76 40 yd

Wyatt 04-21-2017 01:17 PM

@gmbremer 1m1 minute ago
Mo Alie-Cox chose #Colts in part because of "family" atmosphere. Had lunch with Luck, Swoope, Doyle. Pagano reminds him of Shaka Smart.

@HolderStephen 3m3 minutes ago
#Colts signee Mo Alie-Cox is on a conference call. Says Tampa Bay, San Diego, Seattle were among those who made offers.

VeveJones007 04-21-2017 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 10309)
@gmbremer 1m1 minute ago
Mo Alie-Cox chose #Colts in part because of "family" atmosphere. Had lunch with Luck, Swoope, Doyle. Pagano reminds him of Shaka Smart.

@HolderStephen 3m3 minutes ago
#Colts signee Mo Alie-Cox is on a conference call. Says Tampa Bay, San Diego, Seattle were among those who made offers.

Honestly, that's pretty amazing that Luck would have lunch to help recruit what amounts to a walk-on player.

Chromeburn 04-21-2017 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 10266)
We will be lucky if he can develop into 1/2 of the football player that Gronk is, but just for comparison sakes

Mo Alie Cox
6' 7" - 250lbs
4.75 40 yd

Rob Gronkowski
6' 6" - 258lbs
4.68 40 yd

Eric Swoope
6' 5" - 257lbs
4.76 40 yd

What makes Gronk so scary is that damn YAC. Once he gets going he is like a freight train going through the secondary. It's not surprising Pagano is collecting big secondary players.

HoosierinFL 04-21-2017 03:25 PM

Don't forget Marcus Pollard!

Wyatt 04-24-2017 11:14 AM

thoughts on newly released Jaye Howard anyone?

smitty46953 04-24-2017 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 10505)
thoughts on newly released Jaye Howard anyone?

Ballard should know if worth a flyer being from KC, I don't know much about him ... :cool:

smitty46953 04-24-2017 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 10317)
Honestly, that's pretty amazing that Luck would have lunch to help recruit what amounts to a walk-on player.

He was hungry and got offered a free lunch ? :cool:

Wyatt 04-24-2017 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 10506)
Ballard should know if worth a flyer being from KC, I don't know much about him ... :cool:

I've heard speculation that maybe his injury was cause for concern, otherwise that he'd be a great fit for us

sherck 04-24-2017 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 10519)
I've heard speculation that maybe his injury was cause for concern, otherwise that he'd be a great fit for us

I agree. I read something somewhere (so many....) where they were concerned about his response to rehab and that he was not 100% back.

Our DE depth looks like:

Langford: If he can return to 2015 form, then he is a quality starter.

Hunt: I am really intrigued by his switch from a 1-gap 4-3 DE (his pass rush was lacking) to a 2-gap 3-4 DE where his praised run stopping skills will be emphasized. I think he could shine.

Sokili: Freakish strong and massive but underwhelming football player.

Anderson: Has the height and length to play DE if he were not the first choice to play DT in front of Ridgeway.

If healthy, Howard would challenge Langford for play time. All would be improved. However, the question is if he is healthy or not.

Cheers,

FatDT 04-24-2017 01:19 PM

Seems like a talented and versatile player for the DL. But hip injuries dont' always heal right. I doubt the Chiefs would release him if he had a good chance of returning to the way he played in 2015.

smitty46953 04-28-2017 04:25 PM

Following the drafting of Miami TE David Njoku the Browns cut TE Gary Barnidge ... Any interest here ? :cool:

GoBigBlue88 04-28-2017 04:47 PM

I'm so glad this team signed Hankins so they don't have to waste a draft pick on a NT.

VeveJones007 04-28-2017 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 11603)
I'm so glad this team signed Hankins so they don't have to waste a draft pick on a NT.

Still, I'm not opposed to using a later round pick on a NT. Hankins can provide some value at 3-tech as well.

omahacolt 04-28-2017 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 11603)
I'm so glad this team signed Hankins so they don't have to waste a draft pick on a NT.

i agree

i read there weren't very many good prospects at nt

smitty46953 04-28-2017 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 11603)
I'm so glad this team signed Hankins so they don't have to waste a draft pick on a NT.

Me too, I actually am one who wanted Hankins over Poe. Recall watching him at Ohio State and thought he be a good one... :cool:

Coltsalr 04-28-2017 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 11605)
Still, I'm not opposed to using a later round pick on a NT. Hankins can provide some value at 3-tech as well.

I really like DJ Jones as a potential rotational NT:

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OVERVIEW
D.J. (David, Junior) Jones is a short, stout, and athletic nose tackle who excelled for the Rebels the past two seasons but didn't earn all-conference honors from SEC coaches or media. The South Carolina native was a top-five junior college recruit nationally after starring at East Mississippi Junior College (21.5 tackles for loss, 12 sacks in two years), which won two national championships while he was here. Jones played in every game in 2015, starting three, making 40 tackles, 5.5 for loss, and four sacks. Rebels coaches started him all 12 games in his senior year (30 tackles, three TFL, two sacks).
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Has a big bubble and plays with a wide base. Outrageous weight room strength with monster numbers in clean, bench, and squat. Plays low and fires upward strikes to elevate the blocker's center of gravity. Has the play strength to rip through an edge once he gets to it. Has quick hands and is nice with the swim move. Has necessary play traits to be an effective rusher in the twist game. Rare reactive athleticism and short-area lateral quickness for an interior player. Extended tackle radius allows him to close out running lanes away from his gap. Keeps hounding runners down the field for the tackle. Instinctive and quickly sniffs out screen passes. Very rarely on ground.
WEAKNESSES Has a stocky frame with short arms and lacks the length teams like. Lack of size could be an issue against NFL double teams. Motor gets him too juiced at times. Needs to gather himself to prevent running past his target. Was unable to overpower strong guards in man-to-man contest. Productivity fell way off over the second half of the season. Despite his impressive athleticism, lacked impact tackle production.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 4-5
SOURCES TELL US "Go back and watch his tape from early in the season and then from late in the season and you will see a different player. At least that is what I thought. I just thought he looked like he kind of ran out of gas later in the year. He moves around like a fullback but he didn't make that many plays. That worries you as a coach." - SEC offensive coach
NFL COMPARISON Grady Jarrett
BOTTOM LINE Jones has a freaky combination of power and athleticism that isn't seen all that often. While his playing style is reminiscent of Grady Jarrett's, keep in mind that he's a bigger player. Despite his impressive play attributes, Jones failed to generate the production that his flashes on tape would indicate he's capable of. If a coach can unlock more consistency, Jones has a chance to flourish as a one-gapping nose with three-down ability.
-Lance Zierlein
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profil...nes?id=2558265

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Name: D.J. Jones

School: Mississippi

Position fit: Defensive tackle

Stats to know: 18 run stops in 2015 and 13 run stops in 2016.

What he does best:

Wins inside with lateral agility to get around blockers in a hurry.
Highly effective on stunts and has the range to stunt more than one gap over.
Stays after plays and will make impressive tackles in pursuit for a big man.
Effective swim move to routinely get around guards and centers.
Good instincts to recognize he is being let upfield on screens.
Plays with good low pad level and can really get under a blocker’s pads.
Uses his peripheral vision to avoid blocks while finding the ball on misdirection plays.
Agility and balance to avoid cut blocks and stay in the play.
Can use his natural leverage advantage to win quickly in the engagement.
Has the quickness to play one-gap techniques or the shedding ability to play two-gaps.
Graded positively as a pass-rusher and a run-defender for two-straight seasons.
Biggest concern:

Pass-rush wasn’t consistent and came in spurts during the season.
Overall grades dipped significantly after Week 1 game against Florida State.
Has only played 47 percent of defensive snaps each of the last two seasons.
Needs more pass-rush moves other than his effective swim move.
Only two sacks, one hit and six hurries on 208 pass-rush snaps in 2016.
Player comparison: Vernon Butler, Carolina Panthers

Jones’s build and foot quickness and ability to stunt and generate pass-rush pressure is similar to a shorter Butler. Jones won’t be drafted as highly as Butler was selected by the Panthers but he can provide rotational snaps with a similar style of play.

Bottom line: Jones plays with a naturally low pad level and when combined with his height gives him a natural leverage advantage over taller offensive linemen. Jones can play rotational snaps on the interior of defensive line and if he can generate a more consistent pass-rush could possibly push for a starting role down the line. Jones is worth investing a Day 3 pick in the draft.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/dra...s-di-ole-miss/

Wyatt 05-04-2017 03:37 PM

@RapSheet
The #49ers have released RB Mike Davis, source said. He was the subject of trade talks during the draft, so he'll draw real interest.



I believe Indy showed some interest in him in the past...

Wyatt 05-12-2017 01:21 PM

Colts just signed DE Josh Boyd former 5th round pick from Green Bay....played 3 seasons, starting 4 games in 2014

omahacolt 05-12-2017 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 13371)
Colts just signed DE Josh Boyd former 5th round pick from Green Bay....played 3 seasons, starting 4 games in 2014

didn't play at all last year, right?

he will be cut

Brylok 05-13-2017 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 13406)
didn't play at all last year, right?

he will be cut

Competition, dude. He might get cut but he'll at least get a chance to compete. Iron sharpens man.

FatDT 05-14-2017 11:38 PM

Has a DL named Josh ever succeeded?

smitty46953 09-01-2017 05:19 PM

Cards cut RB Chris Johnson :cool:

smitty46953 09-01-2017 05:19 PM

Browns cut QB Brock Osweiler :cool:

smitty46953 09-01-2017 05:27 PM

Ravens cut C Jeremy Zuttah

YDFL Commish 09-02-2017 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 23573)
Ravens cut C Jeremy Zuttah

Zuttah is somebody I would definitely take a look at.

smitty46953 09-02-2017 11:35 AM

Broncos cut Safety TJ Ward

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account
@RapSheet
The #Broncos have informed three-time Pro Bowler and all-pro safety TJ Ward that he's been released, source said.

smitty46953 09-02-2017 11:39 AM

Bengals cut OT Eric Winston :cool:


Tom Pelissero‏Verified account
@TomPelissero

The #Bengals have released veteran OL and NFLPA president Eric Winston, source said.


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