Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 193789)

What did I claim to be that I'm not?

Your standard is arbitrary and therefore not worth acknowledgement.

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 193796)

You are full of shit, and too stupid to notice

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 193797)

You know you've won the argument when all the other side has to respond with is a personal attack.

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 193797)

You know you've won the argument when all the other side has to respond with is a personal attack.

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 193702)

Seems louder to me if 3 or 4 people are responding back with the same opinion, but could just be me.



Who said anything about Ballard being swayed by a scouting intern? I certainly didn't. My comment about a scouting intern was in response to JAFF's comment that seemed to imply that "being in the room on draft day" was the only thing that could make one an expert, which is ludicrous on its face, because there are some people in some of those rooms with almost no experience, and let's not forget that Ryan Grigson ran several draft rooms, and he might be the worst drafting GM ever. I challenge anyone to read The Beast and tell me that Dane Brugler doesn't have as much or more knowledge as an area scout who is "in the room" with 1-5 years of experience.



This is what Kiper said about Mahomes. Seems pretty spot on to me. As for Dilfer, he was an NFL average starting QB and would've been way more valuable than Trev Alberts was.

Originally Posted by Spike (Post 193814)

Griggs was an absolute fucking joke as a GM. Let's not confuse his sorry ass with Ballard. Ballard knows what he is doing.

Kiper gave the Chiefs a C plus in that same draft. If he was so high on Mahomes, how the hell could he give them any lower than a B plus.

As far as Alberts goes, yeah, terrible draft pick. But Dilfer was not an average QB, he was a below average QB. Hell, even when he won a SB, they told him, just don't lose it for us. Let the defense take care of this. Personally, I don't want a QB like that.

Originally Posted by apballin (Post 193809)

So here’s my hypothetical for you Dam, you’re sitting in the draft room and it comes down to Jenkins and Paye

To which the scouting team tells you:
Paye is the hardest worker in the draft he’ll be the first guy in and the last guy out of the building all his teammates love him and would go to war for him

Jenkins: Big lazy half ass worker with a shitty attitude but turns it on come game day

Who you gonna draft even with the film you’ve watched?

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 193810)

An observation, Mr Knowitall. You can pretend to be a professional scout, dont expect others to feed your obsession

Originally Posted by Spike (Post 193814)

Griggs was an absolute fucking joke as a GM. Let's not confuse his sorry ass with Ballard. Ballard knows what he is doing.

Kiper gave the Chiefs a C plus in that same draft. If he was so high on Mahomes, how the hell could he give them any lower than a B plus.

As far as Alberts goes, yeah, terrible draft pick. But Dilfer was not an average QB, he was a below average QB. Hell, even when he won a SB, they told him, just don't lose it for us. Let the defense take care of this. Personally, I don't want a QB like that.

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 193819)

No one is confusing Grigson with Ballard, I was pointing out that Grigson ran draft rooms and his scouting knowledge is clearly, shall we say, limited.

Maybe Kiper hated the rest of their draft that year? I don't really know or care why he gave a draft grade, those are pretty meaningless in my opinion anyway.

All I said was Dilfer would've been a better draft pick than Alberts. Kiper was right about that. He was a league average starting QB (those aren't very good) for about 10 years, which is way more value than a bust LB that flamed out in 3 years.

Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 193460)

I doubt he would do that. There is always a demand for LTs. He will want to go into next offseason a FA. Fisher was tied for 16th best OT in the league last year. That is similar to what Castonzo was before Nelson. I expect that to rise some with Nelson next to him. Maybe say 12th. That’s serviceable with this line.

Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 193471)

Our dline is fixed? That was fast.

If Ballard stayed true to his draft board then he would have known a month ago he wasn’t going to take a tackle that would compete for the starting position. Therefore he could have had his choice at the beginning of free agency. Assuming he wasn’t going to sign Trent Williams, all other options would have been cheaper per year than Fisher and they would be healthy at the beginning of the year.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/left-tackle/

What I bet really happened, Ballard wanted to see how the draft panned out. All the tackles went between our first and second round. We are then forced to go to free agency. We overspend a little for a partial season from an injured player. I suspect Fisher was the cheaper option between he and Leno. But when completely healthy I think Fisher is slightly the better player.

Signing a LT was never going to threaten the upcoming contracts, we will have 100 million again next year.

And please find me the Colt fans who want him to overspend in free agency, I’ll wait.

Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 193626)

Per his agent, Leno has agreed to a 1 year, $5M deal with Washington.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1392508265704140801

Originally Posted by Spike (Post 193821)

LOL, you are giving Griggs way too much credit for saying his knowledge was limited. Hell, that orangatan would do a better job.

Originally Posted by Spike (Post 193821)

On a side note, think about this, if the Colts would have drafted Dilfer and he made the Colts an average team, we wouldn't have been able to draft Peyton fucking Manning. Dilfer was taken in 1994. Things actually worked out better for us not taking Dilfer. But to your point, yes Dilfer would have definitely been the better pick at the time. I thank God Tobin didn't take him.

Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 193832)

Well put. Glad LT was addressed and if Fisher comes back healthy he obviously answers the bell. Seems like he gave us a part year discount as well.

Of course if he's unable to come back at high level then we're SOL, and if we don't re-sign him then we're back to the same problem again next offseason.

Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 193852)

Dam you are full of shit. Kiper wasn’t right. The best player, by far, left on the board was Bryant Young, We know you are full of it because the people who actually put their money where their mouth is never ever hire these so called draft experts like Kiper to run their draft.

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 193863)

Mike Mayock

Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 193869)

I stand corrected. He is a former NFL player so he has more expertise than your average couch potato talking head. He was recently ranked as the worst drafting GM in the NFL so yes, you can hire a draft analyst if your desire is to be the worst drafting team in the league, I'll give you that.

Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 193869)

I stand corrected. He is a former NFL player so he has more expertise than your average couch potato talking head. He was recently ranked as the worst drafting GM in the NFL so yes, you can hire a draft analyst if your desire is to be the worst drafting team in the league, I'll give you that.

Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 193905)

Is this shit ever going to stop ??? ) :cool:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 193863)

Mike Mayock

Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 193905)

This shit ever going to stop? :cool:

Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 194621)

2022 automatically voids next year.

What does that mean? Why is it part of the contract if it automatically voids?


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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 194632)

So that part can count against 2022 cap, which is stupid to me. They still have $15 million of cap space, there's no real difference between that and $12.5 million for roster churn coverage purposes.

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 194632)

So that part can count against 2022 cap, which is stupid to me. They still have $15 million of cap space, there's no real difference between that and $12.5 million for roster churn coverage purposes.

Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 193485)

Personally, I was hoping at this point for a 2-year deal for Charles Leno. I realize the ceiling is much higher with Fischer than Leno. However, Fisher missed a good portion of 2019 with a core injury, then this Achilles tear in January concerns me. I'm not a big fan of the huge risk with Fischer’s recovery. Our ability to protect Wentz now falls on turn-style Tevi filling in until our new 30-year-old Left Tackle who is rehabbing from one of the worst injuries an athlete can have (in terms of ability to rehab and return to form, historically) in record time and then be able to still play at a high level when he returns?

Most research I have read says it's an 11-month recovery, on average. Outliers are 9 months. For Fisher to play in September, he'd be an outlier. No one bets on outliers without acknowledging the risk they're taking. If Fisher's recovery is typical, he probably won't play until December. And if he has a setback, he might not play this season at all.

I would much rather take a chance of consistently average play starting game number one, from a healthy Leno all day over the uncertainty of Fisher's possible elite level of play. This is not my favorite FA move by Ballard. With this being a 1-year deal, I am less concerned with the $9.4M and more with his ability to actually play and do so at a high level. I am not a Ballard bootlicker as some or most here seem to be. I disagree with a lot of the things he is doing recently.

Hopefully our medical staff gets this one right?

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