I wouldn't mind seeing him come back "home" to Indiana...even if he was on the other side of the Hank Baskett game

That name should never be mentioned on this forum.

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Source: DT Johnathan Hankins visited the Colts today. Arguably the top free agent still available.

So, would this be the "big" free agent signing some on here crave?

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He would help solidify the line.

Does he project as a NT in the Colts 3-4? Regardless he is young and talented, has long as it is a smart contract like we have seen the Colts write the last 5 years, then I am all for it.

He is a rather large human being ... :cool:

His college draft profile projected him to either a 4-3 or 3-4 NT defense.

The big question will be if he wants to stay in a 1-gap shooting system or av2-gap clogging defense. The glory is much different for the NT spot.

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I was just looking that up ... :cool:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profil...ins?id=2540147


Overview

Similar to Vernon Gholston a few years back, Hankins was a three-star high school recruit out of Michigan who the Buckeyes lured to Columbus. His size, power, and athleticism made him a two-time all-state pick at Southeastern High School, but his hustle in combination with those physical attributes is what gives him a chance to be a first round prospect in much the same way Dan “Big Daddy” Wilkinson was with the Buckeyes before he became the last defensive tackle selected No. 1 overall by the Cincinnati Bengals in 1994.




Ohio State coaches liked what they saw from “Big Hank” as a true freshman in 2010 (16 tackles, 1.5 for loss) so much that they played him in every game and named him the team’s most outstanding first-year defender. As a sophomore, he was the Buckeyes’ most outstanding defensive player and earned honorable mention All-Big Ten honors (by coaches and media) after making 68 stops, 11 for loss and three sacks. Hankins still decided to slim down a bit after the 2011 season to add increased stamina and quickness. He started all 12 games for the Buckeyes as a junior again and earned First Team All-Big Ten honors with 55 tackles, 4 for loss and one sack. Knowing his combination of size, strength and quickness would be attractive at the next level, Hankins decided to skip his senior year in Columbus and go pro.


Analysis

Strengths Nice job against the run, tracking the play with his eyes and using his body to force the issue. Taller nose tackle prospect with thick upper body and extra girth in the middle. Plays all over the line, often outside the tackle despite his build because of his rare agility. Extends to shrug off blocks and uses his hands to bully blockers, controlling the POA and setting the edge when playing outside. Has extremely strong hands to secure tackles and finish plays once he gets his hands on the ballcarrier. Comes off the ball hard and quick for his size, will win a gap and blow up plays in the backfield if linemen don’t get to the reach-block. Drives back NFL-caliber guards into the backfield and holds up doubles, does not give ground even against better players. Works down the line to get to ballcarriers while engaged, and hustles downfield and to the sideline if needed. Three-down player, on the field for a lot of snaps considering his bulk.

Weaknesses Lacks the burst to be an elite pass rusher, though he can make quarterbacks uncomfortable in the pocket. Can play with high pads, giving better linemen a chance to stand him up. Relies too much on his upper body strength at times and needs to play with consistent leverage. He uses his body too much and needs to consistently utilize his hands and limbs. Must keep his weight under control to maximize his athleticism, and make sure he doesn’t lose his strength and hustle at the end of games. He tends to wear down throughout the course of a game, looking fatigued and noticeably taking plays off. Hankins battled a minor knee sprain the past two seasons, wearing a brace much of the time.

NFL Comparison Terrance Knighton

Bottom Line Hankins, who carried the nickname “Big John” or “Big Hank” around Ohio State’s campus, is a load to handle on the defensive line with flashes of impressive fluidity and coordination skills for a big man. He played all over the defense line in college, lining up both outside at DE and inside at DT. Hankins rarely left the field and his coaches talk positively about his football character, but he often looked fatigued and worn down throughout games, meaning his snaps (and weight) will need to be monitored at the next level. Hankins has a rare combination of size, strength and foot quickness for a defensive lineman to be a force against both the run and the pass. Although he only looks half-speed at times when his tank isn’t full, Hankins can tear through blocks like paper –- a potential top-12 pick with the versatility to line up as a traditional 3-technique DT in a four-man front or an effective two-gapping 0-technique NT for a 3-4 defense.

Bout my size actually, where do i sign ??? :cool:

Spence is going to be good... so is Simon

Colts are hosting Giants NT Hankins.

We will see. I like spence and who knows on Simon

Looks like Hankins left Indy without a deal.

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports...ely/100385888/

If he's looking for Damon Harrison money (which I've read he is), then he's crazy and it was a wasted trip.

f**k that guy.

Hankins ' agent is apparently a complete clown and not really taken seriously anymore because of his consistently stupid-high demands for his clients. Hankins should fire the guy, no reason to be jobless so deep into free agency.

Report has the Giants offer at 4-year, $28m or $7.000m a year.

If he wants more than that, then he is crazy. While is a good and young player, he is not a game wreaker.

Only 12 DTs have multi-year contracts that average over $7.000m a year:

$19.062m = Ndamukong Suh, MIA
$17.100m = Fletcher Cox, PHI
$16.095m = Marcell Dareus, BUF
$15.966m = Gerald McCoy, TB
$14.250m = Malik Jackson, JAX
$11.083m = Michael Brockers, LAR (probably going to a 3-4 NT)
$10.885m = Geno Atkins, CIN
$10.500m = Brandon Williams, BAL (3-4 NT)
$10.250m = Corey Liuget, LAC
$09.250m = Damon Harrison, NYG
$09.000m = Tyrone Crawford, DAL
$07.433m = Kyle Williams, BUF

So, one true 3-4 NT on that list and one guy whom as signed as a 4-3 1-gap NT but is probably transitioning to a 2-gap 0-tech 3-4 NT with their defensive change.

Hankins is not now a 0-tech, 2-gap 3-4 NT. He could turn into one but he has been a 1-gap 4-3 NT for his NFL career thus far. To think that he needs to get paid as the 2nd or 3rd highest paid 3-4 NT in the league.....

I don't mind paying the $7m per year in cap space for a difference maker at the position. Brandon Williams was a difference maker at the position; Hankins may be as well but we don't know that for sure.

Anyway, water under the bridge but it appears that he is way over valuing his worth and will probably end up getting bit because of it.

Cheers,

Hankins supposedly signed. 3 years $30M. An expensive risk but immediate improvement.

Just heard Dakich announce it. Pretty salty

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Spend it!!! We need a SB soon!

Dakich is always salty about something. That's one of the reasons I don't listen to him.

I wonder if this is the difference maker move that Omaha was looking for?

He's not white, so that's a start

I meant the price was salty... I like Dakich, funny stuff[emoji41]


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He wasn't signed by Grigson, so I'm sure Omaha hates it.

Just started listening to Dakich podcast.....helps me through some of my drives but tough to listen to sometimes. Better than Indy Draft podcast though.

CB Jason McCourty cut. Another vet CB that would help ease a rookie CB in during the early part of the season.

A few to choose from.

Cheers,

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Looks like got 2 of my 4, wish we had added Brown too ... :cool:

Not exactly but it should work.

Omaha has been appeased! I wonder if Ballard is done yet?

Backup LG is Good, Haeg or Schewenke whoever loses the starting RG battle just like at RG.

Ridgeway is not a 5-tech; he does not have the height. The D-line depth should be:
NT = Hankins, Woods, Parry
DT (3-tech) = Anderson. Ridgeway, McGill
DE (5-tech) = Langford, Hunt, Sokoli

Althought Anderson has the size to play either DT or DE and Parry has the quickness to play eithet NT or DT.

Swoope is TE2 from dicussions. A rookie will start at TE3.

Same with RB. Turbin is RB2 with a rookie starting at RB3...even if it is Mixon.

Still some glaring holes at CB.

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According to the New York Post's Brian Costello, a fourth-round pick is "about as much" the Jets can hope for in exchange for DE Sheldon Richardson.

We have three 4th rounders. DO IT BALLARD! PULL THE TRIGGER!

The issue is not the 4th rounder.

The issue is the $8.069m cap hit for the 5th year option for 2017 and then the need to re-sign him to a vet contract in 2018.

However, a D-line of:

NT = Hankins, Woods, Parry
DT(3-tech) = Richardson, Ridgeway, McGill
DE(5-tech) = Langford, Anderson, Hunt

looks pretty dang good.

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Would dedicating $8.069 in cap space hamstring us for making moves this season?

Probably not, but why throw away a 4th rounder unless you are sure you want to pay him a huge contract next season?

Furthermore, why not draft someone in the 4th and just sign Richardson next year if you really want him? It's not like he would put this team over the top in 2017.

That is certainly an option, but to be fair if you trade for him you have the franchise tag option and weapon in negotiations for the next contract. I am not convinced that would be the way to go by any means, but it is there.

You also get a years' worth of evaluation time if you trade for him in a walk year.

That, plus, if they manage to kill the opening 2 rounds of the draft (like, if they get Reuben Foster and Tim Williams in the first 2 rounds, which is NOT out of the realm of possibility) and they were plug/play as they're expected to be and had Sheldon Richardson, this team is easily better than the 2014 team that went to the AFCCG.

Just sayin.