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Brylok 03-21-2017 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 7546)
Aiken is by far the best free agent WR we've ever brought in, that I can remember.
Grigson's guys were all problematic in various ways or had been injured. Avery, DHB, that other guy. Aiken is starter level who was def just a forgotten guy in Baltimore.

Other guy was Hakeem Nicks. Brandon Stokley was my favorite WR ever brought in but I'm happy about the Aiken signing.

Puck 03-21-2017 01:31 PM

Ballard and Grigs both like them some TE's

Peter Schrager‏Verified account @PSchrags

Free agent TE Mychal Rivera is leaving his visit with Jets without signing a deal. Will visit with the Colts in Indy next. @gmfb @NFLonFOX

sherck 03-21-2017 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 7577)
Ballard and Grigs both like them some TE's

Peter Schrager‏Verified account @PSchrags

Free agent TE Mychal Rivera is leaving his visit with Jets without signing a deal. Will visit with the Colts in Indy next. @gmfb @NFLonFOX

I cannot remember where it was stated but the Colts ran the most 2TE snaps in the league last year.

We need at least 3 viable NFL TEs in order to run the offense like Chud wants.

Brandon Williams smells like a ST signing to me; not a viable NFL TE.

Cheers,

Dam8610 03-21-2017 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 7556)
The main issue being is that he has only ever played as a 4-3 Undertackle playing in a 1-gap system both at MIA and JAX.

I am not positive that his skills translate into a 3-4 2-gap 5-tech DE well.

Cheers,

This defensive system is supposed to have a DT position that is akin to the 4-3 UT as I understand it. He would fit that position fine.

GoBigBlue88 03-21-2017 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 7577)
Ballard and Grigs both like them some TE's

Peter Schrager‏Verified account @PSchrags

Free agent TE Mychal Rivera is leaving his visit with Jets without signing a deal. Will visit with the Colts in Indy next. @gmfb @NFLonFOX

To be fair, where this team has a shit feel for so many positions, TE is one of the positions where they seem to have a Midas touch.

YDFL Commish 03-21-2017 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 7581)
I cannot remember where it was stated but the Colts ran the most 2TE snaps in the league last year.

We need at least 3 viable NFL TEs in order to run the offense like Chud wants.

Brandon Williams smells like a ST signing to me; not a viable NFL TE.

Cheers,

Other than Doyle, none of these guys are what I would call physical, blocking TE's. We need to find a snot knocker who can help out is short yardage.

I don't want Doyle's role reduced to strictly blocking again, at $6 million + per year either.

Spike 03-21-2017 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 7577)
Ballard and Grigs both like them some TE's

Peter Schrager‏Verified account @PSchrags

Free agent TE Mychal Rivera is leaving his visit with Jets without signing a deal. Will visit with the Colts in Indy next. @gmfb @NFLonFOX

No brainer really, Luck vs. whatever hack the Jets are going to throw out there.

sherck 03-21-2017 04:02 PM

Hahahaha, ATL signed Thornton.

Matt Ryan's sack rate rises in 3......2........1......

Cheers,

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omahacolt 03-21-2017 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 7595)
Hahahaha, ATL signed Thornton.

Matt Ryan's sack rate rises in 3......2........1......

Cheers,

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Good for him.

If he can stay healthy, I bet he does well

VeveJones007 03-21-2017 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JesusChrist (Post 7527)
If that's true, then fire the moron already. I don't see someone intentionally signing average guys just to wait for the next head coach.

It was reported they tried to sign Poe, so it sounds like they DID try to go after at least one big name free agent. They may have tried to offer deals to others, we don't know what all is happening there.

Two very reasonable explanations for not firing Pagano:

1) It was so late in the offseason that the new coach would not have his pick of assistants. Also, it would be hard to put in a new offense when the QB is out the entire offseason.

2) Irsay could be stalling until PM is on board so that he can pick the coach.

VeveJones007 03-21-2017 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 7546)
Aiken is by far the best free agent WR we've ever brought in, that I can remember.
Grigson's guys were all problematic in various ways or had been injured. Avery, DHB, that other guy. Aiken is starter level who was def just a forgotten guy in Baltimore.

And he fills a real need. Very smart signing.

Maniac 03-21-2017 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 7613)
Two very reasonable explanations for not firing Pagano:

1) It was so late in the offseason that the new coach would not have his pick of assistants. Also, it would be hard to put in a new offense when the QB is out the entire offseason.

2) Irsay could be stalling until PM is on board so that he can pick the coach.

I was kidding because if they were going to fire him, they would have done it far earlier. I just meant that if you are wasting a year hiring nobodies just to get rid of the coach, then that is a horrible way to run a team. No way would Ballard be doing that. That scenario doesn't make sense.

If Peyton does come on board at some point, why would he be the one picking the coach? It's usually the GM who does that isn't it? That would be awkward to undercut a newly hired GM's authority.

VeveJones007 03-22-2017 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JesusChrist (Post 7622)
I was kidding because if they were going to fire him, they would have done it far earlier. I just meant that if you are wasting a year hiring nobodies just to get rid of the coach, then that is a horrible way to run a team. No way would Ballard be doing that. That scenario doesn't make sense.

If Peyton does come on board at some point, why would he be the one picking the coach? It's usually the GM who does that isn't it? That would be awkward to undercut a newly hired GM's authority.

Again, I have not said that Ballard is signing "nobodies" or bums or however you want to say it.

What I have said is that he has seemingly gone out of his way to not put any more guaranteed money on the books past 2017. Yes, that fits with his stated strategy of prioritizing the draft, but I believe it's also indicative of a low risk approach to UFA specifically for this season.

There are some important reasons why Ballard may be taking that approach, which I have outlined previously.

Puck 03-22-2017 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 7582)
This defensive system is supposed to have a DT position that is akin to the 4-3 UT as I understand it. He would fit that position fine.


As a 3 tech?

FatDT 03-22-2017 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 7645)
As a 3 tech?

Yes. Generally speaking our odd front look features a 5 tech DE, 0 tech NT, and 3 tech DT.

Wyatt 03-22-2017 12:43 PM

@ColtsConti 28m28 minutes ago
Updated @Colts Jersey #'s:

Hunt-94
Locke-9
Mingo-52
Schwenke-66
Sheard-93
Simon-51
Spence-55
Williams-85
Woods-68

Looks like Sheard has some big shoes to fill wearing the #93 (more so for Dwight, not the most recent 93 wearer)

Wyatt 03-22-2017 04:08 PM

@KBowenColts 1h1 hour ago
The #Colts have signed 10 free agents in 2017:

-Most in history (signed 8 in 2013)

-From 2003-11, the Colts signed 10 total free agents

VeveJones007 03-22-2017 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 7719)
@KBowenColts 1h1 hour ago
The #Colts have signed 10 free agents in 2017:

-Most in history (signed 8 in 2013)

-From 2003-11, the Colts signed 10 total free agents

Guaranteed money past 2017 on each deal:

Sheard = $0 (unless he's hurt and can't play in 2018, then he would receive an injury guarantee of $3.5MM)
Simon = $0
Locke = $0
Turbin = $0
Woods = ??
Hunt = $0
Mingo = $0
Schwenke = $0
Butler = $0
Williams = $0
Aiken = $0

I don't know about anyone else, but I detect a trend here.

Wyatt 03-22-2017 04:54 PM

@AdamSchefter 13s13 seconds ago
Former Raiders' TE Mychal Rivera has agreed to terms with the Jaguars, per @JeffDarlington.

Welp, so much for that one

Butter 03-22-2017 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 7725)
@AdamSchefter 13s13 seconds ago
Former Raiders' TE Mychal Rivera has agreed to terms with the Jaguars, per @JeffDarlington.

Welp, so much for that one

Damn, now the Jags are sure to win the Superbowl.

Wyatt 03-23-2017 06:01 AM

@ColtsUpdate 4h4 hours ago
Report: Colts have interest in Rod Streater http://news.quiboat.com/Hb74KlE7

sherck 03-23-2017 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 7750)
@ColtsUpdate 4h4 hours ago
Report: Colts have interest in Rod Streater http://news.quiboat.com/Hb74KlE7

Hmmm...UDFA in 2012. Became a starter in OAK and earned 174 targets in his first two seasons in the league. Was suppose to headline the Raiders passing attack with new rookie QB Carr but ended up going on IR after only 3 games in 2014 with a foot injury.

Was not recovered in 2015 (played in only 1 game) and was then not resigned following his RFA year and signed with SF last season where he worked as the WR4 behind Jeremy Kerley, Quinton Patton and Torrey Smith. 2016 stats were:

27 targets / 18 receptions / 66.7% catch rate / 191 yards / 10.6 average / 2 TD

With the terrible QBs that SF put out on the field, none of their receivers got many stats last year (their top receiver, Kerley, got 667 receiving yards last year).

I don't know what to think. He was killing it in the first two years in the league for a UDFA and then got robbed by the injury. It may be that it took 2 full years to recover from the injury or it may be that he will never recover.

If nothing else, he is, again, veteran depth with 127 receptions in the NFL who would challenge for playing time as the WR3/WR4. He has no NFL stats for Punt or Kickoff return.

Don't hate the concept because he will be cheap but I wonder what this signing would say about Ballard's confidence in Moncrief, Dorsett or Rogers?

Cheers,

Wyatt 03-23-2017 07:24 AM

@NFLDraftAdvisor 16h16 hours ago
Former Cincinnati RB Tion Green has pre draft visits lined up with Colts(tomorrow) and Lions. Has already met with Bengals.

FatDT 03-23-2017 12:09 PM

I remember Streater. I picked him up in fantasy in 2013 and he played well. Seems like another "forgotten man" type pick up. 6'3, 200 lbs. Topped out with 60/888/4 in 2013.

I dont' have any expectations. I kind of wonder what all the focus on the WRs is for. Defense could still use some guys.

Puck 03-23-2017 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 7791)
I remember Streater. I picked him up in fantasy in 2013 and he played well. Seems like another "forgotten man" type pick up. 6'3, 200 lbs. Topped out with 60/888/4 in 2013.

I dont' have any expectations. I kind of wonder what all the focus on the WRs is for. Defense could still use some guys.


Is Moncreif coming up in a contract yr? I think they try to deal away Dorsett...

GoBigBlue88 03-23-2017 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 7791)
I remember Streater. I picked him up in fantasy in 2013 and he played well. Seems like another "forgotten man" type pick up. 6'3, 200 lbs. Topped out with 60/888/4 in 2013.

I dont' have any expectations. I kind of wonder what all the focus on the WRs is for. Defense could still use some guys.

If Colts sign Streater, they aren't playing about competition. I think training camp could be brutal this year. Like, beyond Luck and Hilton (and Kelly and a few others)...it's every man for himself for a roster spot.

Should be one of the more fascinating offseasons around here in a while. There is pretty much zero guarantee how the depth chart will shake out anywhere. Ballard isn't married to more than a handful of these guys. Unless Pagano lets a TJ Green chub dictate things, starting lineups will look drastically differently in 2017.

omahacolt 03-23-2017 12:25 PM

Streater shouldn't be signed. As most fans would say, he is never healthy

sherck 03-23-2017 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 7794)
Is Moncreif coming up in a contract yr? I think they try to deal away Dorsett...

Colts Free Agents after 2017 season:
CB Vontae Davis **
RB Frank Gore **
CB Darius Butler *
PK Adam Vinatieri **
OLB Akeem Ayers
OLB Barkevious Mingo
QB Scott Tolzien
OC/OG Brian Schwenke *
OG Jack Mewhort **
TE Brandon Williams
OLB Lavar Edwards
FS Duke Williams
CB Rashaan Melvin *
WR Donte Moncrief **
CB Charles James
WR Kamar Aiken *

** Known Starters
* Possible Starters

Ballard is going to have A LOT of decisions to make on guys next year.

Cheers,

VeveJones007 03-23-2017 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 7798)
Colts Free Agents after 2017 season:
CB Vontae Davis **
RB Frank Gore **
CB Darius Butler *
PK Adam Vinatieri **
OLB Akeem Ayers
OLB Barkevious Mingo
QB Scott Tolzien
OC/OG Brian Schwenke *
OG Jack Mewhort **
TE Brandon Williams
OLB Lavar Edwards
FS Duke Williams
CB Rashaan Melvin *
WR Donte Moncrief **
CB Charles James
WR Kamar Aiken *

** Known Starters
* Possible Starters

Ballard is going to have A LOT of decisions to make on guys next year.

Cheers,

And lots of $$$ available for re-signing or UFAs.

sherck 03-23-2017 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 7810)
And lots of $$$ available for re-signing or UFAs.

True.

If cap rises to around $174m, then the Colts have around $65m free.

Add to that any unused 2017 cap space.

Back off $10m for draft class, churn space and practice squad for $55m free.

And my guess is that we will have around $60m to spend on new contracts.

Cutting Arthur Jones will add another $6.250m to that number. If he does not show up this year....

Lots of space.

Cheers,

Wyatt 03-23-2017 04:04 PM

@Colts 19s20 seconds ago
We have signed LS Joe Fortunato: http://indcolts.co/JzEfju

Hopefully Matty O isn't going anywhere, but we have a new LS signed

sherck 03-23-2017 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 7834)
@Colts 19s20 seconds ago
We have signed LS Joe Fortunato: http://indcolts.co/JzEfju

Hopefully Matty O isn't going anywhere, but we have a new LS signed

Good golly, when Ballard says he wants competition everywhere......

Cheers,

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Wyatt 03-23-2017 04:22 PM

Although to be fair, almost 1 year ago we also signed another LS named Forrest Hill

Butter 03-23-2017 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherck (Post 7825)

Cutting Arthur Jones will add another $6.250m to that number. If he does not show up this year....

Lots of space.

Cheers,

I am pretty surprised he is still here.

njcoltfan 03-24-2017 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 7838)
I am pretty surprised he is still here.

Maybe the Colt's NT this year ??

Butter 03-24-2017 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 7889)
Maybe the Colt's NT this year ??

I sure as hell hope they are not counting on him,dude can't stay healthy.

Luck4Reich 03-24-2017 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 7889)
Maybe the Colt's NT this year ??

Doesn't look that way...thank God

GoBigBlue88 03-24-2017 02:41 PM

Any chance Colts trade for Wilkerson? Latest reports have Jets asking for a 4th... Do you pull the trigger if that's true?

Blue Thunder 03-24-2017 03:01 PM

How old is he? and how much would he cost? Sherck? If reasonable yes. That's about where we'd draft an NT anyway.

sherck 03-24-2017 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Thunder (Post 7963)
How old is he? and how much would he cost? Sherck? If reasonable yes. That's about where we'd draft an NT anyway.

27 years old
Plays 5-tech DE in Jets system
$15m cap hit in 2017 (for us)
$17m cap hit in 2018 (for us)
$15.5m cap hit in 2019 (for us)
$16.5m cap hit in 2020 (for us)
There are no true 3-4 NT in draft that will probably be drafted before the 5th round; none are difference makers

Cheers,

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