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omahacolt 03-15-2017 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 6798)
Sounds like a good fit for the Ravens to me.

Sounds like a bad joke to me

VeveJones007 03-15-2017 07:41 PM

Poe done meeting with Dolphins. No deal yet.

Have to think the Colts are still in the running.

Coltsalr 03-15-2017 07:50 PM

@FieldYates
Colts have been actively monitoring the ILB market. Sean Spence, Kevin Minter & Jon Bostic have all been in for recent visits, per source.

Racehorse 03-15-2017 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 6802)
Sounds like a bad joke to me

Seriously? Nevermore!

natagu23 03-15-2017 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 6809)
@FieldYates
Colts have been actively monitoring the ILB market. Sean Spence, Kevin Minter & Jon Bostic have all been in for recent visits, per source.

No to all those guys.

Luck4Reich 03-15-2017 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by natagu23 (Post 6752)
F**k Poe

You sure can if you enjoy big black fatties.

sherck 03-15-2017 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by natagu23 (Post 6812)
No to all those guys.

I like Minter.

The others? No to them.

Cheers,

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Puck 03-15-2017 09:29 PM

Ian Rapoport‏ @RapSheet

He's in Oakland now. Brown has also had talks with the #Colts about a potential deal.

GoBigBlue88 03-15-2017 09:43 PM

It sounds like this Raekwon McMillan kid from OSU could be a legit ILB in this year's draft. Any Buckeyes fans here want to speak to that and/or his fit in a Ravens-style defense? May somewhat limit what Ballard would want to pay for FA ILB.

VeveJones007 03-15-2017 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 6817)
It sounds like this Raekwon McMillan kid from OSU could be a legit ILB in this year's draft. Any Buckeyes fans here want to speak to that and/or his fit in a Ravens-style defense? May somewhat limit what Ballard would want to pay for FA ILB.

Would be a great get at 2.14 based on the scouting reports I've read and the few videos I've seen. EDGE at 1.15 and McMillan at 2.14 would be a special haul. If Ballard can find some corners in rounds 3-4, the defense will have its foundation that it has lacked since Freeney and Mathis were in their prime.

sherck 03-16-2017 07:10 AM

From an NFL.com article titled "Best team fit for notable remaining free agents."


Johnathan Hankins, defensive tackle

NFL fans don't know Hankins well after his first four years in the league, but it's surprising to see NFL teams share the apathy. The defensive tackle market has been slow to develop throughout free agency, with Dontari Poe also still available and Bennie Logan not signing a contract until Monday. Turning 25 years old at the end of the month, Hankins boasts impressive upside and experience as a three-year starter for the Giants. How many 320-pound run stuffers have a seven-sack season on their résumé?

Our No. 3 free agent still available, Hankins has generated suboptimal buzz. He looks destined to wind up on a short-term deal with a team looking for value. The Falcons, Colts, Dolphins and Packers should be in the market for a defensive tackle like Hankins, with the first three teams meeting with Poe. The Colts already have shown an eye for value early in free agency. Getting Hankins at a discount rate would make a lot of sense.

BEST FIT: Indianapolis Colts



While I don't think that he is a true 3-4 NT, he is available, probably cheaper than Poe and would help stabilize the position for a year or two along with perhaps a rookie draft pick and/or Parry if he is retained.

We need someone with beef manning the middle and while Hankins is not ideal, he is a 3-year NFL starter with talent who would be a plus for our defense.

I don't know why this deal and a deal for an ILB is not getting done TODAY.

Cheers,

smitty46953 03-16-2017 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 6578)
My Wish List from remaining Free Agents ... :cool:

Johnathan Hankins DT
Zack Brown LB
Kevin Minter LB
Darius Butler S/CB
Morris Claiborne CB

Still available ... :cool:

smitty46953 03-16-2017 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 6844)
From an NFL.com article titled "Best team fit for notable remaining free agents."


Johnathan Hankins, defensive tackle

NFL fans don't know Hankins well after his first four years in the league, but it's surprising to see NFL teams share the apathy. The defensive tackle market has been slow to develop throughout free agency, with Dontari Poe also still available and Bennie Logan not signing a contract until Monday. Turning 25 years old at the end of the month, Hankins boasts impressive upside and experience as a three-year starter for the Giants. How many 320-pound run stuffers have a seven-sack season on their résumé?

Our No. 3 free agent still available, Hankins has generated suboptimal buzz. He looks destined to wind up on a short-term deal with a team looking for value. The Falcons, Colts, Dolphins and Packers should be in the market for a defensive tackle like Hankins, with the first three teams meeting with Poe. The Colts already have shown an eye for value early in free agency. Getting Hankins at a discount rate would make a lot of sense.

BEST FIT: Indianapolis Colts



While I don't think that he is a true 3-4 NT, he is available, probably cheaper than Poe and would help stabilize the position for a year or two along with perhaps a rookie draft pick and/or Parry if he is retained.

We need someone with beef manning the middle and while Hankins is not ideal, he is a 3-year NFL starter with talent who would be a plus for our defense.

I don't know why this deal and a deal for an ILB is not getting done TODAY.

Cheers,

Been my choice all along ... Won't complain with Poe but think overall Hankins should be here ... :cool:

Maniac 03-16-2017 09:45 AM

From the miami herald via rotoworld:

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Free agent DT Johnathan Hankins has been holding firm that he wants a multi-year contract.
Hankins, 25 later this month, has surprisingly drawn zero interest in the 7-10 days free agency has been open. Easily one of the best players left on the market, Hankins wants to be a starter and seeks $8 million-plus per year. According to Dolphins ace beat writer Armando Salguero, Miami checked in on Hankins, but he isn't willing to accept a one-year offer. Hankins went into this reportedly wanting a five-year deal at $45 million or more. That's highly unlikely to happen at this stage of free agency. Whoever eventually lands Hankins could be getting a bargain.

sherck 03-16-2017 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JesusChrist (Post 6861)
Free agent DT Johnathan Hankins has been holding firm that he wants a multi-year contract.
Hankins, 25 later this month, has surprisingly drawn zero interest in the 7-10 days free agency has been open. Easily one of the best players left on the market, Hankins wants to be a starter and seeks $8 million-plus per year. According to Dolphins ace beat writer Armando Salguero, Miami checked in on Hankins, but he isn't willing to accept a one-year offer. Hankins went into this reportedly wanting a five-year deal at $45 million or more. That's highly unlikely to happen at this stage of free agency. Whoever eventually lands Hankins could be getting a bargain.

I would give him a multi-year deal....say 3-year, $15 - 18m to come play NT for us.

That would give Hankins the opportunity to develop into a stud NT for us and then get paid his next contract at 28 years old in the Brandon Williams range

-- OR --

Gives us up to 2 years to find his replacement through the draft and groom him to take over once Hankins walks at the end of the contract.

I don't think Hankins will be world class as a 3-4 NT unless he develops more than he has so far in his career.

But, he would be solid/good/NFL average which is what we need right now as we find, hopefully, draftee studs over the next 2 - 3 years to fill in at the top of our defensive depth chart.

You have to have everyone be NFL average for the impact players to then be able to do their job well. We need NFL average everywhere before anyone stud we draft will shine.

Hankins will probably be NFL average at a spot that I don't think the draft will provide for. We might get a low round NT backup in the draft but not a day one starter.

Cheers,

sherck 03-16-2017 10:06 AM

Interesting quote about our new interior O-lineman, Brian Schwenke.

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Earlier today, new Colts offensive lineman Brian Schwenke had a chance to speak with the media, and he explained the reason he signed with the Colts: he said they offered him an “opportunity to compete” for a starting spot, according to the Anderson Herald Bulletin’s George Bremer.

Additionally, FOX59’s Mike Chappell noted that Schwenke said he knows it will be at right guard instead of center because Ryan Kelly is already entrenched as the starting center.

A question many have been asking since the Colts signed Schwenke a few days ago has been what the lineman’s role will be, with most assuming that it will probably be as a depth guard/center, in a very similar role to the one that Jonotthan Harrison occupied last year. But Schwenke seemed to make it clear that he’ll have an opportunity to compete for the starting right guard spot.

That statement shouldn’t come as any surprise, however, especially if you’ve been paying attention to Chris Ballard’s emphasis on competition. The new Colts GM is looking to increase the competition level all over Indy’s roster so that guys have to fight for starting spots, and it’s likely that all of his free agency moves will be driven at least somewhat by that desire to improve competition. So with Brian Schwenke, the Colts add a guy who has played in 41 games and started 28 of them during his time with the Titans to push Joe Haeg, Le’Raven Clark, and Denzelle Good on the right side of the line. That’s a good thing.

None of that means that Schwenke will wind up as the starting right guard, however, as it’s probably best to think of Joe Haeg as still being the frontrunner to start at that spot. But the Colts don’t want to just hand those spots that are up for grabs out automatically, so they’re adding guys like Brian Schwenke to compete. He choose the Colts because of that, and it’s been a major emphasis by Chris Ballard already during his short time in Indianapolis. That emphasis will surely continue, too - and it means we’ll have a competition to monitor on the right side of the Colts’ line this offseason and into training camp.
I like it. Schwenke is not all-pro but he is solid enough to be a 28 game starter. He will push Haeg, Clark and Good to be better and that will make our entire O-Line better.

Depending on the contract size, this was a great move. I cannot imagine that the contract will be huge considering he was not signed as the "starter" from the bat and I am predicting about $2.5m a year average for him.

Cheers,

Maniac 03-16-2017 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherck (Post 6862)
I would give him a multi-year deal....say 3-year, $15 - 18m to come play NT for us.

That would give Hankins the opportunity to develop into a stud NT for us and then get paid his next contract at 28 years old in the Brandon Williams range

-- OR --

Gives us up to 2 years to find his replacement through the draft and groom him to take over once Hankins walks at the end of the contract.

I don't think Hankins will be world class as a 3-4 NT unless he develops more than he has so far in his career.

But, he would be solid/good/NFL average which is what we need right now as we find, hopefully, draftee studs over the next 2 - 3 years to fill in at the top of our defensive depth chart.

You have to have everyone be NFL average for the impact players to then be able to do their job well. We need NFL average everywhere before anyone stud we draft will shine.

Hankins will probably be NFL average at a spot that I don't think the draft will provide for. We might get a low round NT backup in the draft but not a day one starter.

Cheers,

$5m-$6m would be worth signing him. If he's insisting on $8m+, then that's too much IMO

natagu23 03-16-2017 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherck (Post 6862)
I would give him a multi-year deal....say 3-year, $15 - 18m to come play NT for us.

That would give Hankins the opportunity to develop into a stud NT for us and then get paid his next contract at 28 years old in the Brandon Williams range

-- OR --

Gives us up to 2 years to find his replacement through the draft and groom him to take over once Hankins walks at the end of the contract.

I don't think Hankins will be world class as a 3-4 NT unless he develops more than he has so far in his career.

But, he would be solid/good/NFL average which is what we need right now as we find, hopefully, draftee studs over the next 2 - 3 years to fill in at the top of our defensive depth chart.

You have to have everyone be NFL average for the impact players to then be able to do their job well. We need NFL average everywhere before anyone stud we draft will shine.

Hankins will probably be NFL average at a spot that I don't think the draft will provide for. We might get a low round NT backup in the draft but not a day one starter.

Cheers,

Hankins has the potential to be a good NT.

He and "Snacks" were pretty disruptive and were a force against the run.

The thing I like about him is his ability to get pressure on the QB.

HoosierinFL 03-16-2017 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JesusChrist (Post 6866)
$5m-$6m would be worth signing him. If he's insisting on $8m+, then that's too much IMO

I'd give him $8m/yr on a 2 year deal. If he wants a longer deal it has to be for less.

FatDT 03-16-2017 10:50 AM

I don't want Hankins. He's gotten fat since college and I don't think that would get any better with a big FA contract.

Wyatt 03-16-2017 10:59 AM

@pfrumors 3m3 minutes ago
The #Dolphins have inquired on #Giants free agent DT Johnathan Hankins. Story here:

Wyatt 03-16-2017 11:00 AM

@_SportsTrust
Al Woods has agreed to terms with the @Colts. #Colts #LegendsLiveHere

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7DERqgWgAAKdZN.jpg

natagu23 03-16-2017 11:01 AM

I dont get it.

I honestly dont.

Wyatt 03-16-2017 11:03 AM

@HolderStephen 26s27 seconds ago
Al Woods, for the record, is a good competition signing. He's relatively athletic for his size (6-4, 307) from what I recall of him.

@HolderStephen 53s54 seconds ago
He turns 30 in a couple weeks but has been pretty healthy in recent years.

does this mean we're done searching for a NT now?

natagu23 03-16-2017 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 6870)
I don't want Hankins. He's gotten fat since college and I don't think that would get any better with a big FA contract.

You're the first person that im aware of who has pointed out Hankins has gotten fat.

smitty46953 03-16-2017 11:05 AM

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet · 2m2 minutes ago

Former #Seahawks and #Saints DL John Jenkins is visiting the #Bears today, source said, and he’s at the #Colts tomorrow. A rare true NT

:cool:

smitty46953 03-16-2017 11:08 AM

Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet · 2m2 minutes ago
The #Colts signed DL Al Woods, formerly of the #Titans, per @_SportsTrust. More depth & competition in Indy. 2-year contract worth $5M total
:cool:

smitty46953 03-16-2017 11:23 AM

Jacksonville Jaguars‏Verified account
@Jaguars

The #Jaguars have signed LB Josh McNary.

:cool:

Wyatt 03-16-2017 11:23 AM

@Jaguars
The #Jaguars have signed LB Josh McNary.

FatDT 03-16-2017 11:24 AM

Woods is 29 but already has 8 years in the NFL. Probably just a depth signing.

smitty46953 03-16-2017 11:25 AM

Jason La Canfora‏Verified account @JasonLaCanfora · 27s28 seconds ago
Veteran DB Darius Butler has another round of visits scheduled, starting with Washington today. Colts want him back. Visited CHI already

:cool:

Thorgrim 03-16-2017 11:32 AM

Sign him damnit.

GoBigBlue88 03-16-2017 11:53 AM

Just going to pretend Al Woods is Al Haynesworth.

Butter 03-16-2017 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 6892)
Just going to pretend Al Woods is Al Haynesworth.

We shall henceforth call him Woodsworth.

Wyatt 03-16-2017 12:09 PM

Gotta have wood to chop more wood

rcubed 03-16-2017 12:27 PM

I want to hear less "bringing in for competition"

and more "he is a stud and will start immediately for us"

smitty46953 03-16-2017 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 6903)
I want to hear less "bringing in for competition"

and more "he is a stud and will start immediately for us"

I don't mind the competition, but you are right a couple nice starters would be nice ... :cool:

Colt Classic 03-16-2017 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 6903)
I want to hear less "bringing in for competition"

and more "he is a stud and will start immediately for us"

Culture-changing signings?

smitty46953 03-16-2017 12:49 PM

#Falcons are signing former #Chiefs first round pick DT Dontari Poe, per @ProFootballTalk

:cool:

sherck 03-16-2017 12:49 PM

At this point, they are bringing in guys who "might" be okay on the D-Line and throwing them at the wall hoping a couple of them stick. It is obvious that they don't want to pay much for their bodies at this point.

D-Line really cannot be a focus of this draft. LB and Secondary are in much worst shape than the D-Line.

I am not saying that our D-Line is good but they at least have the bodies that MIGHT make it a good D-Line. Guys like Anderson, Langford and Jones should be good but due to injuries, none of them are dominate.

We have two younger guys who have shown flashes (Ridgeway, Parry) but one of them might be in the big house starting this upcoming season.

Bringing guys in like Woods and Hunt (and perhaps Jenkins) is a way to make sure that whoever rises to the top will at least be NFL average (hopefully) of the mass of bodies that we might have there.

Low risk, medium reward seems to be the theme of much of the Colts free agency focus this off-season. Schwenke, Mingo, Hunt and Woods are all in that category. At least they are all O-Line or Defensive Front 7. Build up the trenches.

Sheard, Simon and Locke are the only guys we have signed as "starters" so far.

Cheers,


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