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AlwaysSunnyinIndy 11-17-2019 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 142794)
He’s done for the year. Wonder if that will affect his stock.


There is a lot of speculation that he may stay at Bama for his Senior year and delay entering the NFL draft.

Racehorse 11-17-2019 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 142808)
There is a lot of speculation that he may stay at Bama for his Senior year and delay entering the NFL draft.

Well, it's stay or Miami.

Chromeburn 11-17-2019 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 143081)
Well, it's stay or Miami.

Maybe, Miami might not have the first pick and they might take Tua. As a player, can be worse places to play.

Dewey 5 11-17-2019 05:27 PM

Skins lose to the Jets. That 2nd round pick is looking good. Someone like Nate Stanley will be available in the 2nd & I’ve been keeping my eye on him. Big strong kid with a solid arm. Compares to Rothlisberger but will need to sit a year or two.

VeveJones007 11-17-2019 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 141608)
Yeah but he also affords is the ability to take a Jordan Love like kid and see if he can develop

FWIW, Zach Hicks heard that Ballard was high on Love back in August. Love is also attainable--no way the Colts can get into position for Burrow.

Chromeburn 11-17-2019 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 143099)
FWIW, Zach Hicks heard that Ballard was high on Love back in August. Love is also attainable--no way the Colts can get into position for Burrow.

Love reminds me of Brisset a little.

omahacolt 11-18-2019 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 143167)
Love reminds me of Brisset a little.

How?

albany ed 11-18-2019 10:32 AM

What about Ehrlinger from Texas? Does anyone have inside knowledge/opinions on this kid?

HoosierinFL 11-18-2019 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 143223)
How?

Yea I'm not seeing it. I just watched some highlight clips of him on youtube, obv with the realization you can only get a small snapshot of a player that way. But I see little JB in his game except maybe pocket presence.
He reminds me more of a taller Russell Wilson. Best trait appear to be a real nice touch and placement on deep balls. He has a touch of the improvisation ability of Mahomes, but just a touch.

One problem with the highlights is that on a lot of them, his receivers were just wide open, and he has a couple that are pretty tall, and he was just able to throw to his first read on all these plays. So these were easy targets, but he did hit his guys in stride and landed some really nice long passes. I just wanna see more of his ability to make tighter throws, read through progressions when guys aren't wide open.

Chromeburn 11-18-2019 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 143223)
How?

Height and weight are similar. He can roll out and is accurate on the run. Brisset might be a bit heavier, but Love could probably get as big with an off-season. Also arm strength and zip on the ball is similar. Love has a very strong arm. Both stand tall in the pocket and can scan the field. Good throwing motion.

Differences; Love takes more risks and will stare down a receiver, but not sure if that is because he doesn't have much talent around him. He does make bad decisions and will turn the ball over. He does seem to diagnose quickly and will anticipate his guy getting open. Not afraid to use his arm strength to thread the needle. Also can throw with some touch and is accurate short to medium range.

However, saw on the wire that he is now hurt

Chromeburn 11-18-2019 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 143239)
What about Ehrlinger from Texas? Does anyone have inside knowledge/opinions on this kid?

Seems like a grinder. Tough kid. Reminds me of Harbaugh a little. He struggles with accuracy though unless it is a slant or a deep ball. Everything in between he can be hit or miss. He needs big receivers that have a big wingspan. Also his running style will get him injured in the pros.

Spike 11-23-2019 11:31 PM

Herby looking terrible tonight against the Arizona Sun Devils.

Spike 11-24-2019 02:13 AM

Love not looking too good either.

Oldcolt 11-24-2019 10:22 AM

Not sure which of these guys have a better upside than Brissett. Ballard isn't spending a high draft pick on a qb unless he is convinced. We need to get Brissett to open it up. Is that the fault of Brissett or of Reich? When you call runs almost 2-1 it makes me think that both have a hand in it.

Chromeburn 11-24-2019 10:40 AM

No one has mentioned Jake Fromm. Fromm took the job from Eason and Eason never got it back. Doesn’t have the physical traits or arm, but does have the intangibles. There is also Hurts and some other QBs.

Maybe it’s not this year either. Should be some decent QBs next year. That USC QB looks like he will be good, think he is a freshman though.

If we were going to trade up, I would trade up for Chase Young. That guy will be a monster.

Puck 11-24-2019 12:38 PM

apparently Ballard was at the Utah State game to watch Love yesterday . Can't find the link right now

Spike 11-24-2019 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 144532)
No one has mentioned Jake Fromm. Fromm took the job from Eason and Eason never got it back. Doesn’t have the physical traits or arm, but does have the intangibles. There is also Hurts and some other QBs.

Maybe it’s not this year either. Should be some decent QBs next year. That USC QB looks like he will be good, think he is a freshman though.

If we were going to trade up, I would trade up for Chase Young. That guy will be a monster.

Yeah, Young is a pass rushing beast.

Spike 11-24-2019 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 144532)
No one has mentioned Jake Fromm. Fromm took the job from Eason and Eason never got it back. Doesn’t have the physical traits or arm, but does have the intangibles. There is also Hurts and some other QBs.

Maybe it’s not this year either. Should be some decent QBs next year. That USC QB looks like he will be good, think he is a freshman though.

If we were going to trade up, I would trade up for Chase Young. That guy will be a monster.

Yep, Lawrence and Fields probably top the list.

Dewey 5 11-24-2019 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 144546)
Yeah, Young is a pass rushing beast.

Young is easily the best player in the country. A team would be beyond dumb to trade away an opportunity to get him.
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Chromeburn 11-25-2019 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 144545)
apparently Ballard was at the Utah State game to watch Love yesterday . Can't find the link right now

Guess he has been to see him four times this year. That is a lot.

smitty46953 11-27-2019 03:22 PM

Not sold on drafting a QB, but should the Colts go that way.
My thoughts are that I don't get the love for Jordan Love, Utah State (6'4" - 220) he is a 61-percent passer with a 14-15 TD-INT ratio.
If he is available and could very well be, I would much rather grab Jalen Hurts Oklahoma (6'2" - 210) who has a 71.4 percent passer with a 30-6 TD-INT ratio. Also Hurts is very mobile rushing for 1156 yards so far this season. :cool:

HoosierinFL 11-27-2019 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 145045)
Not sold on drafting a QB, but should the Colts go that way.
My thoughts are that I don't get the love for Jordan Love, Utah State (6'4" - 220) he is a 61-percent passer with a 14-15 TD-INT ratio.
If he is available and could very well be, I would much rather grab Jalen Hurts Oklahoma (6'2" - 210) who has a 71.4 percent passer with a 30-6 TD-INT ratio. Also Hurts is very mobile rushing for 1156 yards so far this season. :cool:

I saw an analysis of Love on youtube suggesting he has a tendency to lock on to receivers and not read defenses or make progressions.
That is consistent with the highlight reel I watched where all his big plays came when the receivers were just stupidly wide open, which could imply that he doesn't make big plays when the coverage is better.
We don't need a QB like that!

Racehorse 11-27-2019 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 144824)
Guess he has been to see him four times this year. That is a lot.

I wonder if he was there to watch someone else, but is saying Love to throw people off a bit.

Dewey 5 11-27-2019 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 145064)
I wonder if he was there to watch someone else, but is saying Love to throw people off a bit.

When you go to four Utah St. games you’re only there to focus on one guy. I’m convinced that Ballard is doing some hard scouting on Love.

VeveJones007 11-28-2019 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 145112)
When you go to four Utah St. games you’re only there to focus on one guy. I’m convinced that Ballard is doing some hard scouting on Love.

I’m sure the Colts will heavily evaluate the QBs in this draft. Whether or not those players pass that evaluation is another story. We’ll see.

JAFF 11-28-2019 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 145112)
When you go to four Utah St. games you’re only there to focus on one guy. I’m convinced that Ballard is doing some hard scouting on Love.

The Mountain West has some players worth drafting, not just Love

Chromeburn 11-28-2019 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 145064)
I wonder if he was there to watch someone else, but is saying Love to throw people off a bit.

Utah St vs LSU sure. Utah St vs Fresno probably not. I don’t think there is anyone else on that squad to scout. Not for the GM personally to go. I thought about a smokescreen too. Supposedly they were interested in Jeffrey Simmons last year and Tennessee got him. So I wonder if he is throwing those out. But not four times.

smitty46953 11-28-2019 10:17 AM

If I recall correctly after initial visit to Notre Dame with Nelson, the Colts never contacted him again until they announced his name at draft? Lot of smoke by most teams hiding their true intentions. :cool:

Racehorse 11-28-2019 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 145112)
When you go to four Utah St. games you’re only there to focus on one guy. I’m convinced that Ballard is doing some hard scouting on Love.

Anyone else on that squad?

Oldcolt 11-28-2019 12:35 PM

Holder reported that Ballard was originally credentialed for Boise State-Utah State game but went to another game instead. Reich seems to think he can win with Brissett. He may be right about that but the margin for error will be small. I don't think management is freaking out about Brissett as much as doing their due diligence. That is a good thing for this team long term.

rcubed 11-28-2019 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 145150)
Holder reported that Ballard was originally credentialed for Boise State-Utah State game but went to another game instead. Reich seems to think he can win with Brissett. He may be right about that but the margin for error will be small. I don't think management is freaking out about Brissett as much as doing their due diligence. That is a good thing for this team long term.



Agree. I think ballard is evaluating his options. If someone he likes is there at our draft spot he takes the QB. If not we roll another year with JB.


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Colt Classic 11-28-2019 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 143239)
What about Ehrlinger from Texas? Does anyone have inside knowledge/opinions on this kid?

No inside knowledge, but he seems like the guy the announcers hype just so they can show the picture of him as a baby throwing up the hook 'em horns sign. I don't feel like he's worth it.


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