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Racehorse 04-29-2019 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 118947)
That's a great way to never learn anything. Reflecting on mistakes and the reasons they were made can help you grow, while reflecting on successes can help you learn to maximize them moving forward.

What's more is that we already know that Ballard agrees with me. He said that he did a lot of reflecting after Zach Banner didn't pan out and has made a conscious effort not to make that same mistake again.

Dude, I said learn from it, but don’t dwell on it. Not sure how you misconstrued that, but I guess that’s what we do here.

littlepickle13 04-29-2019 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 118883)
One DE/DT who was injured for a good chunk of the year did not address the position. Including Lewis as a full DT, right now, the DT unit consists of Hunt, Autry, Lewis, Stewart, and UDFAs. That leaves the position dangerously thin IMO. Maybe they sign a free agent, but if they roll with what they have now, getting gashed on the interior may be the undoing of this team. That may end up a good thing, however, as Ballard tends to be thematic with his drafts. Last year, fixing the trenches was his priority, and this year he addressed team speed on defense. In both cases, the thing he addressed was what he felt the team's biggest weakness from the prior year was.

Don't forget about about Jihad Ward coming back. Was playing very well before his injury. 2nd round pick in 2016 (Oakland). Change of scenery was doing him well.

VeveJones007 04-29-2019 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 118956)
Dude, I said learn from it, but don’t dwell on it. Not sure how you misconstrued that, but I guess that’s what we do here.

Maybe because your first five sentences run completely counter to your 6th and final statement?

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I won’t look back. Backwards looking keeps you in fear. You have to keep going forward with what you have and ignore the misses. Just like a QB who throws a pick.
Honestly, how do the above and below follow the same logic?

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You have to shake it off and learn from it
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Dam8610 04-30-2019 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by littlepickle13 (Post 118967)
Don't forget about about Jihad Ward coming back. Was playing very well before his injury. 2nd round pick in 2016 (Oakland). Change of scenery was doing him well.

Ward was a DE. Doesn't help the DT situation.

Maniac 04-30-2019 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 118973)
Ward was a DE. Doesn't help the DT situation.

Ballard may not be done addressing the position this offseason. There may be some post draft cuts or training camp cuts that he brings in.

Puck 04-30-2019 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 118973)
Ward was a DE. Doesn't help the DT situation.

You do realize that the position that recorded the most sacks last yr was DT correct? I have no idea why you are so down on Autry Hunt Lewis and Turay

Need some depth at NT but other than that strengthening the LBs was pretty smart and I did not see that coming at all.

We added Houston who will attract a lot of attention and will free up some more one in ones for the 3 tech.

He addressed the dline last year. Can’t do it every yr

Pez 04-30-2019 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 118985)
You do realize that the position that recorded the most sacks last yr was DT correct? I have no idea why you are so down on Autry Hunt Lewis and Turay

Need some depth at NT but other than that strengthening the LBs was pretty smart and I did not see that coming at all.

We added Houston who will attract a lot of attention and will free up some more one in ones for the 3 tech.

He addressed the dline last year. Can’t do it every yr

Agree here, I was all on board with picking two DTs early. I'm coming around on all the LB picks. Just stoked to watch this defense next year.

Dam8610 04-30-2019 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 118985)
You do realize that the position that recorded the most sacks last yr was DT correct? I have no idea why you are so down on Autry Hunt Lewis and Turay

Need some depth at NT but other than that strengthening the LBs was pretty smart and I did not see that coming at all.

We added Houston who will attract a lot of attention and will free up some more one in ones for the 3 tech.

He addressed the dline last year. Can’t do it every yr

Turay is not a DT and should never take a snap there. The current DT group is Hunt, Autry, Lewis, Stewart, that's 4 guys, 2 of which are arguably DE/DT hybrids. That's razor thin depth at the position IMO.

Racehorse 04-30-2019 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 118969)
Maybe because your first five sentences run completely counter to your 6th and final statement?



Honestly, how do the above and below follow the same logic?

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Easy. You see what went wrong and you correct it, but you don't let it eat at you.

FatDT 04-30-2019 02:23 PM

UT is ok. I'm not sold totally on the Autry/Lewis prototype,and I wonder how much time each will spend at DE. But they're ok. NT is a pretty big need IMO. Stewart isn't that good. Hunt does well but not as an every down player.

VeveJones007 04-30-2019 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 119021)
UT is ok. I'm not sold totally on the Autry/Lewis prototype,and I wonder how much time each will spend at DE. But they're ok. NT is a pretty big need IMO. Stewart isn't that good. Hunt does well but not as an every down player.

I agree with this to an extent, but I also don't think it's very hard to address. Bring in an Al Woods as a rotational piece to soak up some blocks on running downs. Those aren't hard to find, especially when you have a bajillion dollars in cap space. To me, that was always a "wait until after the draft" position to address.

I think people might be getting a little hung up on the DT position as it compares with the Dungy-era Colts. But there's a huge difference vs those teams: the DEs can (and are asked to) play much more disciplined vs the run. Ballard has emphasized DEs that are bigger and who set a better EDGE in the run game, which doesn't put the full onus on the DTs.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 04-30-2019 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 118901)

The biggest help will be the speed and length


This draft will help one other place that hasn't been discussed much yet. I think all of this extra speed and athletic ability will be featured on special teams. I expect to see some improvement on the Colts kick-off and punt coverage teams. Maybe not at the beginning of the year. But as the season progresses, I expect to see some improvement. The first significant amount of reps for some of these guys will be on special teams.

And hopefully there is a returner within the draft class or UDFA's. I am sure they will give plenty of people a shot during training camp.

VeveJones007 04-30-2019 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 119034)
This draft will help one other place that hasn't been discussed much yet. I think all of this extra speed and athletic ability will be featured on special teams. I expect to see some improvement on the Colts kick-off and punt coverage teams. Maybe not at the beginning of the year. But as the season progresses, I expect to see some improvement. The first significant amount of reps for some of these guys will be on special teams.

And hopefully there is a returner within the draft class or UDFA's. I am sure they will give plenty of people a shot during training camp.

Pretty sure either Campbell or Hart won't have much of a problem beating out Rogers.

FatDT 04-30-2019 06:11 PM

Campbell seems pretty good at returns.


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