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Dam8610 01-09-2024 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 290150)
If they don't tag Pittman he may be gone. Say's he owes it to himself to test free agency.

https://horseshoeheroes.com/posts/mi...ynM-w0ZyTWyfr4

If they don't tag Pittman I'll start to question Ballard's GM ability.

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 290185)
Here's what I'd like to see us do in the offseason on top of re-signing our own (w/ MPJ being the highest priority followed by Grover, Moore, and Blackmon):

- Add a starting outside CB to go along w/ Brents. Keep Flowers and Jones as depth and push Baker to either the bottom of the depth chart or off the roster.

- Add at least 1 WR, if not 2. Would be good to bring in/draft someone to compete w/ Pierce, but at least bring in a couple of decent WRs for depth.

- Add more pass rush via the draft or FA.

- Add NT depth. Our run D really went to shit without Grover.

- Add at Safety. Cross showed why he still remains a project and Thomas took a step back this year. Would be great to bring in a starter, but if nothing else add some depth.

- IOL depth.

As for the draft I'd like to see us go w/ BPA at CB/WR/DE or maybe S if there's a special talent that falls in our lap with our 1st pick.

Honestly, the only part I'd disagree with there is WR. Once Pittman is re-signed, I don't think they need to add at WR unless an elite talent like Nabers falls to them.

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 290189)
Yeah, I see what you're saying. Although, the thing for me is... well a couple of things...

For one, as I've said a bunch of times on these boards: I think sacks can be among the most misleading stats in football. Not that I think they're useless. I just think they require a lot of context.

Especially if we're looking at a single given year. We see guys all the time have an outlier year and then return to their own status quo. If I looked at the leaderboard last year, I'd see 3rd-rounder Alex Highsmith with 14.5 sacks. He came back to Earth this year and now 3/4 of his seasons of 2, 6, and 7 sacks.

But, anyway, to your point... Guys like Hendrickson and Crosby are 3rd/4th-rounders that are yearly problems from OC's. Those are the guys that worry you, just like the scary 1st-rounders. Even Chris Jones was a 2nd-rounder. So they can be found. But the odds are low even for 1st-rounders, so it's only less likely you find the next Hendrickson. But shit, even Hendrickson didn't blow up until year-4.

Just for shits... a quick count from the top 23 sack guys (the double digit guys)... I think I counted 14 1st-rounders, with 11 of those being top-15 (maybe top-13, can't remember) guys. Like two 2nd's, five 3rd/4th's, a 7th and an undrafted. For whatever that's worth.

When I look into it, I usually end up in the same place... these fuckers are hard to find.

Honestly, looking at the sack leaderboard, combined with Ballard's history of success at DE in free agency and the draft, led me to think signing Hunter might be the best option.

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 290202)
His defenses, even to this day, have always been built around individual game designs and negating your biggest weapon. He forced you as a staff to figure out how to win games with your B guys.

Gus Bradley does nothing of the sort. Same damn game plan regardless of the opposing QB and receiving corps on the opposing side of the ball. Since he has been here we have constantly been on here bitching about the stupid completion percentages over and over, and it never fucking changes no matter what the fucking lame ass QB name is opposite us. Over a long enough period of time- which he has had- the issue becomes the scheme and all the excuses about injuries, lack of effective DE's, etc... become just that excuses. Gus Bradley is like the antithesis of Steichen- no creativity and very fucking conservative. We need a change!

Easier to stop an offense when you know what their playcall is. Easier to know what your opponent's offense is calling if you have Ernie Adams analyzing tape and relaying the signals directly to Belicheat on gameday.

IndyNorm 01-09-2024 09:40 AM

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Honestly, the only part I'd disagree with there is WR. Once Pittman is re-signed, I don't think they need to add at WR unless an elite talent like Nabers falls to them.
We have 3 NFL caliber WRs on the roster. Everyone else is a PS/TC fodder type of player. Even if we don't need to bring in someone to compete w/ Pierce, which is debatable, we still need to add 1-2 WRs to have some adequate depth.

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Honestly, looking at the sack leaderboard, combined with Ballard's history of success at DE in free agency and the draft, led me to think signing Hunter might be the best option.
Agree that Hunter would be a great signing. But we all know how Ballard operates, so little chance of that happening. An Autry/Ebukam type signing is probably the best we can hope for.

YDFL Commish 01-09-2024 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 290220)
We have 3 NFL caliber WRs on the roster. Everyone else is a PS/TC fodder type of player. Even if we don't need to bring in someone to compete w/ Pierce, which is debatable, we still need to add 1-2 WRs to have some adequate depth.



Agree that Hunter would be a great signing. But we all know how Ballard operates, so little change of that happening. An Autry/Ebukam type signing is probably the best we can hope for.


As mentioned many during broadcasts, Pierce ran the most 9 routes of any WR in the NFL, and by a wide margin.

He was open on a lot of those routes and Minshew just failed to find him, or didn't trust his arm. The hope is that AR hits on those open routes.

Besides they are still valuable routes as Pierce is a threat and he does move safeties from time to time.

Lov2fish 01-09-2024 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 290227)
As mentioned many during broadcasts, Pierce ran the most 9 routes of any WR in the NFL, and by a wide margin.

He was open on a lot of those routes and Minshew just failed to find him, or didn't trust his arm. The hope is that AR hits on those open routes.

Besides they are still valuable routes as Pierce is a threat and he does move safeties from time to time.

Minshew didn't have the arm needed to get it there. On all those go routes and fly routes he was open literally 80% of the time. He rarely got any respect from opposing DC's because they knew he was not getting the ball. If we have a QB who can get it there accurately it will also free up Pit on the other side and make those slants a little easier to Downs. Just being able to throw a deep ball makes a defensive approach to us a little more challenging. I don't think we need WR helps as much as some. We need to see if Pierce can catch the ball when thrown to him in stride. Most of his catches are made from him having to come back for the ball, or in a congested route where he has to fight for it cause it was woefully off target or underthrown.

IndyNorm 01-09-2024 08:36 PM

I'm not saying to completely give up on Pierce, but if either Odunze or Nabors is there for us to draft it probably makes sense to draft one of them (pending they're the BPA).

I do stand by my statement that we need to bring in 1-2 WRs (could be from the draft) for depth b/c we have pretty much nothing past MPJ (hopefully), Pierce, and Downs.

Dam8610 01-09-2024 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 290283)
I'm not saying to completely give up on Pierce, but if either Odunze or Nabors is there for us to draft it probably makes sense to draft one of them (pending they're the BPA).

I do stand by my statement that we need to bring in 1-2 WRs (could be from the draft) for depth b/c we have pretty much nothing past MPJ (hopefully), Pierce, and Downs.

If Nabers is there, he's the BPA. In most classes, he'd be WR1, but most classes don't have the physical reincarnation of Calvin Johnson taught to play WR from childhood by Marvin Harrison.

If you don't get an elite talent like that, though, I really don't see a reason to bring in a WR. If Ballard's not an idiot (and he's not), he'll tag and extend MPJ. MPJ is a good 1, Downs is a good slot (and IMO would be the #2 target in the offense), and Pierce has the skillset to be the deep threat boundary guy. Beyond that, the Colts are only going to keep 5 WRs in all likelihood, Dulin will probably be one of them, and I likes what I saw of DJ Montgomery enough to not burn a Day 3 pick on the hope of getting a good WR4.

So if you can get Nabers, get him, otherwise stand pat at WR IMO.

IndyNorm 01-10-2024 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 290293)
If Nabers is there, he's the BPA. In most classes, he'd be WR1, but most classes don't have the physical reincarnation of Calvin Johnson taught to play WR from childhood by Marvin Harrison.

If you don't get an elite talent like that, though, I really don't see a reason to bring in a WR. If Ballard's not an idiot (and he's not), he'll tag and extend MPJ. MPJ is a good 1, Downs is a good slot (and IMO would be the #2 target in the offense), and Pierce has the skillset to be the deep threat boundary guy. Beyond that, the Colts are only going to keep 5 WRs in all likelihood, Dulin will probably be one of them, and I likes what I saw of DJ Montgomery enough to not burn a Day 3 pick on the hope of getting a good WR4.

So if you can get Nabers, get him, otherwise stand pat at WR IMO.

I agree on Nabers and as mentioned before like Odunze as well. Guessing both will be gone by 15, but stranger things have happened.

You're assuming Dulin will be fully recovered from his ACL tear. Not saying that he won't be, but it is possible that he's not and starts on the PUP.

Not following your logic on not drafting a day 3 WR. If there's one available at the top of Ballard's board who's likely better than Montgomery then why wouldn't we want to take him? Also, if WRs 4-6 are good on special teams then we could keep 6. Probably not, but it could happen.

Dam8610 01-10-2024 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 290302)
I agree on Nabers and as mentioned before like Odunze as well. Guessing both will be gone by 15, but stranger things have happened.

You're assuming Dulin will be fully recovered from his ACL tear. Not saying that he won't be, but it is possible that he's not and starts on the PUP.

Not following your logic on not drafting a day 3 WR. If there's one available at the top of Ballard's board who's likely better than Montgomery then why wouldn't we want to take him? Also, if WRs 4-6 are good on special teams then we could keep 6. Probably not, but it could happen.

If a WR is BPA, it's a Day 3 pick, they don't even make the roster sometimes. That said, you can often find starters at other positions on Day 3, OG being a great example of that. If there's a starting caliber OG that could push Fries and a WR who will be lucky to make the roster as a WR4, I'd rather get the OG.

omahacolt 01-10-2024 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 290313)
If a WR is BPA, it's a Day 3 pick, they don't even make the roster sometimes. That said, you can often find starters at other positions on Day 3, OG being a great example of that. If there's a starting caliber OG that could push Fries and a WR who will be lucky to make the roster as a WR4, I'd rather get the OG.

day 3 guards don't make the roster sometimes. what are you even going on about? Nacua was a day 3 pick. he turned out fine.

we all know starting guards and centers can be found a lot of times on day 3. that doesn't mean a wr can't be awesome on day 3.

Dam8610 01-10-2024 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 290364)
day 3 guards don't make the roster sometimes. what are you even going on about? Nacua was a day 3 pick. he turned out fine.

we all know starting guards and centers can be found a lot of times on day 3. that doesn't mean a wr can't be awesome on day 3.

Puka Nacua and Marques Colston are much more the exception than the rule and starting OGs are much more common on Day 3. Pretty sure you already knew that, though.

Racehorse 01-10-2024 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 290313)
If a WR is BPA, it's a Day 3 pick, they don't even make the roster sometimes. That said, you can often find starters at other positions on Day 3, OG being a great example of that. If there's a starting caliber OG that could push Fries and a WR who will be lucky to make the roster as a WR4, I'd rather get the OG.

Can you back any of this up with facts?

IndyNorm 01-10-2024 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 290313)
If a WR is BPA, it's a Day 3 pick, they don't even make the roster sometimes. That said, you can often find starters at other positions on Day 3, OG being a great example of that. If there's a starting caliber OG that could push Fries and a WR who will be lucky to make the roster as a WR4, I'd rather get the OG.

If there's someone in day 3 available who Ballard thinks can legitimately compete for a starting spot on the roster then I'd expect him to have said player higher on his draft board than just someone who he thinks will be a depth guy. Also, if a WR is going to have trouble beating out someone like Montgomery then they're probably nowhere near the BPA, even on day 3. Not trying to knock Montgomery. He made a couple of clutch catches vs. Pitt, but there's a reason why he's bounced around on multiple team's practice squads and only has 6 catches since he entered the league in 2019.

Also, Ballard doesn't seem to put much stock in the likelihood of a day 3 draftee making the roster. If he likes the player he takes them. For example in day 3 of the '23 draft he picked 2 OTs w/ only 1 likely to make the roster, same w/ CBs, a TE who was going to have a steep uphill climb to make the roster, and a RB who was probably going to make the roster but w/out injuries would have been burried on the depth chart.

IndyNorm 01-10-2024 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 290366)
Puka Nacua and Marques Colston are much more the exception than the rule and starting OGs are much more common on Day 3. Pretty sure you already knew that, though.

It doesn't mean they can't be found. Also, I'd be willing to be there are plenty of day 3 WRs on rosters throughout the league.

Dam8610 01-10-2024 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 290367)
Can you back any of this up with facts?

I'm not going to waste my time pulling the last 10 drafts' rounds 4-7 to determine how many starting OGs and starting WRs were there, but if you have time to do that, feel free to do so. I have a feeling it will show a lot more starting OGs than WRs, though.

Dam8610 01-10-2024 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 290380)
It doesn't mean they can't be found. Also, I'd be willing to be there are plenty of day 3 WRs on rosters throughout the league.

Sure. I don't see WR as a need for this team. I disagree with your assessment that it is. I do, however, agree with you that Nabers provides enough of an upgrade to be worth taking at 15 if he is there.

Racehorse 01-11-2024 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 290382)
I'm not going to waste my time pulling the last 10 drafts' rounds 4-7 to determine how many starting OGs and starting WRs were there, but if you have time to do that, feel free to do so. I have a feeling it will show a lot more starting OGs than WRs, though.

If so, you should be able to come up with some of the names

IndyNorm 01-13-2024 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 290383)
Sure. I don't see WR as a need for this team. I disagree with your assessment that it is. I do, however, agree with you that Nabers provides enough of an upgrade to be worth taking at 15 if he is there.

Interesting that you keep side stepping Odunze when I bring him up. Guessing you don't like him?

Also, not sure why you're so opposed to adding depth at WR. At the very least the more quality weapons for AR the better right?

bigalbert 01-15-2024 05:13 PM

We need a playmaker TE. Will help our WR’s out and definitely help AR out. All the good teams have one. I mean one even better than Dallas Clark. If the edge rusher isn’t there at 15 let’s go TE


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Dam8610 01-15-2024 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 290604)
Interesting that you keep side stepping Odunze when I bring him up. Guessing you don't like him?

Also, not sure why you're so opposed to adding depth at WR. At the very least the more quality weapons for AR the better right?

Honestly? Don't have an opinion on him yet, have watched no film on him. Only WRs I've watched at this point are Harrison Jr. and Nabers and both were incidental to watching a QB. I'll probably watch Odunze when I get to Penix. That said, I've definitely added Latu to the list of players I want if they're there at 15. He's currently at the top of the list.

Dam8610 01-15-2024 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bigalbert (Post 290789)
We need a playmaker TE. Will help our WR’s out and definitely help AR out. All the good teams have one. I mean one even better than Dallas Clark. If the edge rusher isn’t there at 15 let’s go TE


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Brock Bowers won't be available at 15. The playmaking TE class was last year. Not nearly as many available this year.

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apballin 02-03-2024 12:57 AM

I’d rather get Jeremy Chinn

YDFL Commish 02-03-2024 09:45 AM

I'm not interested in a safety. Give me the Bears Jaylon Johnson at CB. Ballard can not go int this offseason filling out the secondary with draft picks.

Dam8610 02-03-2024 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 292080)
I'm not interested in a safety. Give me the Bears Jaylon Johnson at CB. Ballard can not go int this offseason filling out the secondary with draft picks.

I'm interested in a safety, but it's Julian Blackmon. Jaylon Johnson would be nice, but I'd prefer an elite pass rusher like Danielle Hunter.

albany ed 02-03-2024 02:57 PM

I hope they go after Chase Young. He had a luke warm year so he might be willing to sign a one year deal, have it be a great year and then go back to Free Agency in a giant way. Playing with the Colts would give him an opportunity to feast on the young QBs in the AFC south and possibly get a high number of sacks.

YDFL Commish 02-04-2024 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 292087)
I'm interested in a safety, but it's Julian Blackmon. Jaylon Johnson would be nice, but I'd prefer an elite pass rusher like Danielle Hunter.

Yeah, I want Blackmon back too. But I wanna add a productive young CB to the mix as well.

apballin 02-05-2024 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 292087)
I'm interested in a safety, but it's Julian Blackmon. Jaylon Johnson would be nice, but I'd prefer an elite pass rusher like Danielle Hunter.

I didn’t realize Johnson was a free agent… he’d be nice considering him and Blackmon were teammates in college

Spike 02-05-2024 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 292090)
I hope they go after Chase Young. He had a luke warm year so he might be willing to sign a one year deal, have it be a great year and then go back to Free Agency in a giant way. Playing with the Colts would give him an opportunity to feast on the young QBs in the AFC south and possibly get a high number of sacks.

I watch the 49ers quite a bit, Chase Young is a low effort Jag. Takes too many plays off.

Don't want him.

albany ed 02-07-2024 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 292152)
I watch the 49ers quite a bit, Chase Young is a low effort Jag. Takes too many plays off.

Don't want him.

Thanks, I only know of him by reputation, but based on what your assessment is, it would be a mistake to sign him. I'll watch him closely in the SB and see how he does.

YDFL Commish 02-07-2024 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 292249)
Thanks, I only know of him by reputation, but based on what your assessment is, it would be a mistake to sign him. I'll watch him closely in the SB and see how he does.

He may not even play.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-07-2024 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 292080)
I'm not interested in a safety. Give me the Bears Jaylon Johnson at CB. Ballard can not go int this offseason filling out the secondary with draft picks.


Supposedly Chicago is interested in retaining his services. It has been rumored for the last 1-2 months that the Bears will tag him if they cannot agree to terms on a new deal.

I guess talks could breakdown and he could try to force his way out of the Windy City but it will probably require a tag-and-trade. So there is a good chance that the Colts would have to send Chicago some draft picks in addition to extending a big contract offer.

Dam8610 02-10-2024 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 290604)
Interesting that you keep side stepping Odunze when I bring him up. Guessing you don't like him?

Also, not sure why you're so opposed to adding depth at WR. At the very least the more quality weapons for AR the better right?

I watched Odunze now, so I figured I'd come back and address this. After watching at least 10 games of both Odunze and Nabers, it's close, but I'd take Nabers.

First, let's talk Odunze. Top thing I will note, Penix overthrew him and/or placed the ball high far too often. When he had catchable balls, he made a lot of tough catches. He won most contested situations, and he ran great routes that got him open with good separation often. The thing that surprised me most with Odunze was his open field playmaking ability. Receivers his size usually don't have the open field quickness/shiftiness he has. I've heard he's drawn Larry Fitzgerald comps, and while I don't agree, I'd call him more of a poor man's Larry Fitzgerald if we're using that comp, the traits I see that would cause someone to make that comp are the open field playmaking ability, the size, and the great highpointing ability on catches, especially in the redzone. The biggest negatives to Odunze for me are twofold: first, it seems he has a bit of a habit of playing down to his competition, which seemed to be a trait of his whole team, and second is that there were a few times in about three or four games I watched where Odunze had concentration drops. These were situations where the ball was placed perfectly, Odunze was wide open and set up to make a big play, and he just dropped the ball. If you're drafting Odunze, you're drafting him as your WR1, and that is something that is inexcusable for a WR1.

Now let's talk Nabers. The thing that jumps out about Nabers immediately on any tape you put on is the playmaking ability, which is electric. Get him the ball in the open field and he has the chance to take it to the house on every play. The next thing that jumps out is the route running ability and ability to create separation. He's open by 3-5 yards so often, and the subtle shifts he uses in his route running including speed changes and breaks are constantly creating that space for him. The third thing that stands out on his tape is the body control. This is what I saw that made me comp him to Reggie Wayne. If he's catching a ball on a boundary, whether it's the sideline or the end zone, he has elite ability to go up, win the contested catch, and still bring both feet down in bounds. As for weaknesses, it's really hard to find anything without nitpicking. The one I see in most scouting reports is that his route tree isn't diverse enough, but that feels a lot like last year's C.J. Stroud criticism that "he couldn't create outside of the structure of the offense", which is to say that it's stating a "weakness" just to have something to state as a weakness.

In summary, both are great players, both are probably gone in the top ten, but if both were on the board and I was making the selection, I'd select Nabers. That said, I don't think the Colts will get a chance to draft either, but I'd certainly welcome either as a dynamic playmaker to add to the arsenal for Richardson. Interestingly enough, however, Brock Bowers seems to have become one of the chalk picks for the Colts at 15, which is surprising considering I'd rate him as a Top 5 to Top 10 talent in this class. I would not be disappointed with that. There are actually a lot of ways the Colts could go at 15 that I'd be happy with, to the point that a trade down might not be a bad idea.

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IndyNorm 02-18-2024 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 292422)
I watched Odunze now, so I figured I'd come back and address this. After watching at least 10 games of both Odunze and Nabers, it's close, but I'd take Nabers.

First, let's talk Odunze. Top thing I will note, Penix overthrew him and/or placed the ball high far too often. When he had catchable balls, he made a lot of tough catches. He won most contested situations, and he ran great routes that got him open with good separation often. The thing that surprised me most with Odunze was his open field playmaking ability. Receivers his size usually don't have the open field quickness/shiftiness he has. I've heard he's drawn Larry Fitzgerald comps, and while I don't agree, I'd call him more of a poor man's Larry Fitzgerald if we're using that comp, the traits I see that would cause someone to make that comp are the open field playmaking ability, the size, and the great highpointing ability on catches, especially in the redzone. The biggest negatives to Odunze for me are twofold: first, it seems he has a bit of a habit of playing down to his competition, which seemed to be a trait of his whole team, and second is that there were a few times in about three or four games I watched where Odunze had concentration drops. These were situations where the ball was placed perfectly, Odunze was wide open and set up to make a big play, and he just dropped the ball. If you're drafting Odunze, you're drafting him as your WR1, and that is something that is inexcusable for a WR1.

Now let's talk Nabers. The thing that jumps out about Nabers immediately on any tape you put on is the playmaking ability, which is electric. Get him the ball in the open field and he has the chance to take it to the house on every play. The next thing that jumps out is the route running ability and ability to create separation. He's open by 3-5 yards so often, and the subtle shifts he uses in his route running including speed changes and breaks are constantly creating that space for him. The third thing that stands out on his tape is the body control. This is what I saw that made me comp him to Reggie Wayne. If he's catching a ball on a boundary, whether it's the sideline or the end zone, he has elite ability to go up, win the contested catch, and still bring both feet down in bounds. As for weaknesses, it's really hard to find anything without nitpicking. The one I see in most scouting reports is that his route tree isn't diverse enough, but that feels a lot like last year's C.J. Stroud criticism that "he couldn't create outside of the structure of the offense", which is to say that it's stating a "weakness" just to have something to state as a weakness.

In summary, both are great players, both are probably gone in the top ten, but if both were on the board and I was making the selection, I'd select Nabers. That said, I don't think the Colts will get a chance to draft either, but I'd certainly welcome either as a dynamic playmaker to add to the arsenal for Richardson. Interestingly enough, however, Brock Bowers seems to have become one of the chalk picks for the Colts at 15, which is surprising considering I'd rate him as a Top 5 to Top 10 talent in this class. I would not be disappointed with that. There are actually a lot of ways the Colts could go at 15 that I'd be happy with, to the point that a trade down might not be a bad idea.

Cool. Thanks for responding after you took a look. The reason why I was bringing him up is b/c I suspect he's the one of the 3 big WR prospects that's most likely to fall to us at 15. Not saying it's going to happen, and I agree that he along w/ Nabers will be gone by the time we draft unless one of them has a bad workout, etc. I'd be happy with us getting either of them, but assuming we're able to re-sign MPJ then I think Nabers would be the better fit w/ our current WR group.

Yeah, I've been seeing Bowers pop up a lot for us in mock drafts. Would love to see us draft him, but I suspect he'll show up really well in pre-draft workouts that will push him into the top 10.

Agree that trading down is definitely a possibility. Ballard loves to do it.

Dam8610 02-18-2024 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 292798)
Cool. Thanks for responding after you took a look. The reason why I was bringing him up is b/c I suspect he's the one of the 3 big WR prospects that's most likely to fall to us at 15. Not saying it's going to happen, and I agree that he along w/ Nabers will be gone by the time we draft unless one of them has a bad workout, etc. I'd be happy with us getting either of them, but assuming we're able to re-sign MPJ then I think Nabers would be the better fit w/ our current WR group.

Yeah, I've been seeing Bowers pop up a lot for us in mock drafts. Would love to see us draft him, but I suspect he'll show up really well in pre-draft workouts that will push him into the top 10.

Agree that trading down is definitely a possibility. Ballard loves to do it.

I'd love to draft Latu at 19 or 20 and pick up an extra Day 2 pick in the process. Apparently Latu is falling on boards despite having by all accounts a good Senior Bowl because he wasn't an elite athlete. That said, his lack of elite athleticism is the reason I think he won't end up a Colt. If Bowers is there, the Colts will love him for being a 1 of 1 type player. I don't buy the 230 rumors on him, and I don't care if he's 6'3" 240 if he runs in the 4.4s and runs a 3 cone in WR range, because on film he blocks like a OT and otherwise plays like a top tier WR. If Bowers isn't there, there are actually a lot of good options at ED and CB. I wouldn't be mad with any of Latu, Verse, Arnold, Mitchell, Wiggins, or DeJean. That's six players, and 3-5 of them are likely to be on the board when the Colts pick. Trading back to one of these teams that wants to get their QB or head up the OT run seems to look better as the process continues.

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Colts Projected to Land One of the Top Defensive Backs in Free Agency

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https://horseshoeheroes.com/posts/co...y-01hnjksyr4hr

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Last season, l Kendall Fuller l had 79 combined tackles, 9 pass defenses, and 2 interceptions in 15 games played.



Colts Projected to Sign Super Bowl Champion CB

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Last season, l Kendall Fuller l had 79 combined tackles, 9 pass defenses, and 2 interceptions in 15 games played.




Colts Projected to Sign Super Bowl Champion CB

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https://www.si.com/nfl/colts/news/ke...-agency-rumors

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I'd rather they sign Sneed if they're going the veteran route.

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I'd rather they sign Sneed if they're going the veteran route.

I don’t want either…. They played on an aggressive style defense and didn’t have to cover long… quite the opposite of the sit back in zone and make the tackle style of defense we play here

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I don’t want either…. They played on an aggressive style defense and didn’t have to cover long… quite the opposite of the sit back in zone and make the tackle style of defense we play here

Not only that, but I doubt Ballard will be willing to cough up the cash to sign either of them.

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Report: The Colts Met With Illinois OL Jordyn Slaughter

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Slaughter has asserted that his biggest asset is his versatility, that he is capable of filling in adequately at either guard or tackle should somebody get injured during a game.


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