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Brylok 02-13-2023 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 260002)
Looks like Steichen is going to be an idiot and take the job.

Good! Let's get this done and put this awful season behind us.

JAFF 02-13-2023 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 259995)
Bang- yep, thank you- oh man he was so trash and just kept getting PT no matter how bad he sucked. I always figured he must have wed Polian's daughter or some shit.

He could stay healthy.

ChaosTheory 02-13-2023 12:02 PM

I just want to hear from the horse's mouth that Bradley and Ventrone are staying with the Colts.

rcubed 02-13-2023 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 260003)
Good! Let's get this done and put this awful season behind us.

what's the over under on how long he lasts?

YDFL Commish 02-13-2023 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 260007)
I just want to hear from the horse's mouth that Bradley and Ventrone are staying with the Colts.

If Shaq is calling out Bradley as one of the coaches who is not calling out players for bad play or lack of effort, then I'm not so sure i want him around.

Lov2fish 02-13-2023 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 260007)
I just want to hear from the horse's mouth that Bradley and Ventrone are staying with the Colts.

Colts did prevent him from interviewing for a lateral move to other teams. To me this would say he is staying. Not sure about Bubba. Of course he could clear the entire staff and bring all his own people. I would keep Bradley though. He was getting the max out of these guys until they got worn out at the end of the season.

Mr. Session 02-13-2023 01:19 PM

I’m not thrilled. I really wanted a guy that had some experience being a HC and understood what failure looked like. I’m not looking forward to watching ANOTHER rookie HC go through their growing pains.

I guess everyone needs to start somewhere.

Oldcolt 02-13-2023 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Session (Post 260014)
I’m not thrilled. I really wanted a guy that had some experience being a HC and understood what failure looked like. I’m not looking forward to watching ANOTHER rookie HC go through their growing pains.

I guess everyone needs to start somewhere.

Who? Retreads don't exactly set the world on fire. I wanted Morris because he is older with more experience. Any way we go it is a crap shoot to some degree. Lets just hope we get lucky

ChaosTheory 02-13-2023 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 260011)
If Shaq is calling out Bradley as one of the coaches who is not calling out players for bad play or lack of effort, then I'm not so sure i want him around.

I might agree, even though it would be difficult seeing the effectiveness of Bradley's system.

But part of why I'm so anxious to hear officially is because I'm not sure that Leonard was talking about Bradley rather than Reich. He could've been, but it seems a little more awkward as opposed to referencing Reich who is already gone. And that was the rumored knock on Reich in general, patting guys on the butt and telling them it's ok type of stuff.

ChaosTheory 02-13-2023 01:51 PM

Also... finding out if Bradley and Ventrone are staying or not will go a long way explaining what the Colts feel they're missing.

Hypothetically if they stay, what's different about last season?...

You'd have the same DEF system, same ST system, and a play-calling (maybe) HC that comes from the same Pederson-Reich-Sirianni umbrella. So the only big difference that would seem to jump out is the demeanor and energy of a young HC.

Spike 02-13-2023 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 260019)
Also... finding out if Bradley and Ventrone are staying or not will go a long way explaining what the Colts feel they're missing.

Hypothetically if they stay, what's different about last season?...

You'd have the same DEF system, same ST system, and a play-calling (maybe) HC that comes from the same Pederson-Reich-Sirianni umbrella. So the only big difference that would seem to jump out is the demeanor and energy of a young HC.

I would add in one big piece of the puzzle, and that is a young QB who is not a washed up old statuesque QB. And that will make a heck of a lot of difference. Nobody was winning anything with the QB's we had the last couple of years, NOBODY!

Pederson and Siriani have done quite well with good QB's.

ChaosTheory 02-13-2023 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 260020)
I would add in one big piece of the puzzle, and that is a young QB who is not a washed up old statuesque QB. And that will make a heck of a lot of difference. Nobody was winning anything with the QB's we had the last couple of years, NOBODY!

Pederson and Siriani have done quite well with good QB's.

True. And so did Reich in '18 and '20.

Brylok 02-13-2023 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 260010)
what's the over under on how long he lasts?

I'm not even thinking about that. I'm just going to be happy to have a new head coach, new QB, and some optimism again! I've been turning into a curmudgeon in recent times.

Colts And Orioles 02-13-2023 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 260020)



I would add in one big piece of the puzzle, and that is a young QB who is not a washed-up. old. statuesque QB ...... and that will make a heck of a lot of difference. Nobody was winning anything with the QB's that we had the last couple of years, NOBODY !!!

Pederson and Siriani have done quite well with good QB's.





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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 260021)



True ...... and so did Reich, in '18 and '20.




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A good QB, and an EXCELLENT offensive line in 2020.

Philip Rivers had the mobility of an inanimate object when he was 39 years-old in that 2020 season ...... the Colts went 11-6 in the regular season, and Rivers was literally untouched by the Buffalo Bills' defense in the Wildcard playoff game in northwestern New York State.

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Colts And Orioles 02-13-2023 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 260023)
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A good QB, and an EXCELLENT offensive line in 2020.

Philip Rivers had the mobility of an inanimate object when he was 39 years-old in that 2020 season ...... the Colts went 11-6 in the regular season, and Rivers was literally untouched by the Buffalo Bills' defense in the Wildcard playoff game in northwestern New York State.

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And now that I think about it ...... even Jim Caldwell, who was a sub-par head coach with a terrible sense of when and when not to call timeouts, did well with a good QB in the 2009 season. The team that he was coaching made it to the Super Bowl.

o

Mr. Session 02-13-2023 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 260016)
Who? Retreads don't exactly set the world on fire. I wanted Morris because he is older with more experience. Any way we go it is a crap shoot to some degree. Lets just hope we get lucky

Morris.

njcoltfan 02-13-2023 05:35 PM

Just wondering, did anyone see Steichen get on that plane heading to Indy ??? I would have thought with all the hours spent interviewing him, one would have assumed all the T's had been crossed !!!

CletusPyle 02-13-2023 06:19 PM

Dakich is saying the Colts screwed the Eagles by leaking the news on the day of the Super Bowl…insinuating that Steichen might be pissed off and having second thoughts of signing. Dakich is one bitter dude right now!

ChaosTheory 02-13-2023 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 260027)
Just wondering, did anyone see Steichen get on that plane heading to Indy ??? I would have thought with all the hours spent interviewing him, one would have assumed all the T's had been crossed !!!

Well, I would think they only got as far as making an offer and Steichen accepting. As far as the contract goes, lawyers are going to lawyer. I'm thinking that later this evening would be on the earlier end of the spectrum. Tomorrow more likely, possibly later than that.

njcoltfan 02-13-2023 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 260028)
Dakich is saying the Colts screwed the Eagles by leaking the news on the day of the Super Bowl…insinuating that Steichen might be pissed off and having second thoughts of signing. Dakich is one bitter dude right now!

It was that little shit Schefter that did the leaking, I hope the Colts didn't burn the bridges with the Callahan camp !!

YDFL Commish 02-13-2023 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 260030)
It was that little shit Schefter that did the leaking, I hope the Colts didn't burn the bridges with the Callahan camp !!

It is almost 90% of the time agents that are leaking any news.

Racehorse 02-13-2023 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 260007)
I just want to hear from the horse's mouth that Bradley and Ventrone are staying with the Colts.

Bradley and Ventrone are staying with the Colts.

Dewey 5 02-13-2023 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 260027)
Just wondering, did anyone see Steichen get on that plane heading to Indy ??? I would have thought with all the hours spent interviewing him, one would have assumed all the T's had been crossed !!!

Sounds like he arrived about one hour ago

Oldcolt 02-13-2023 09:12 PM

If Steichen is pissed because it leaked (something I seriously doubt) fuck the guy. It leaked most likely because of agents and the Colts calling people to tell them themselves that they wouldn't be getting the job.

ChaosTheory 02-13-2023 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 260033)
Bradley and Ventrone are staying with the Colts.

You son of a bitch. I scrolled down three news stories before I realized what you did.

Chromeburn 02-14-2023 01:28 PM

Press conference on now.

https://player.castr.com/live_a9dae4...5f1d05757e1b1c

Brylok 02-14-2023 01:44 PM

"We're going to throw to score points, and run to win." - Shane Steichen.

Hell yeah! Let's GO

ChaosTheory 02-14-2023 01:46 PM

Noncommittal on Bradley and Ventrone coming back. Damn.

ChaosTheory 02-14-2023 02:01 PM

Irsay was either giving it away or being savvy... Ballard joked about trading back and Irsay said, "He likes picks, but the kid from Alabama looks good, too."

DragonTails 02-14-2023 02:02 PM

Can we spend some money now and get some fkn ball players in here.

What good is all this cap money if you only spend a little on shit ass players.

Chromeburn 02-14-2023 02:06 PM

He seems more of a hardass. Accountability probably won't be a problem this time around.

Oldcolt 02-14-2023 02:30 PM

Guy really wants it. I love the emotion

CletusPyle 02-14-2023 02:33 PM

Are we officially the Philadelphia Eagles farm team now?:D

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-14-2023 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DragonTails (Post 260057)
What good is all this cap money if you only spend a little on shit ass players.

What cap money are you talking about?

I don't think you have looked at the Colts cap situation since they signed Nelson, Leonard, etc to their contract extensions.

Sure, the Colts can create some extra space for 2023 beyond what is shown on the overthecap or spotrac websites right now by jettisoning Matt Ryan's contract - although that will also create a hefty dead cap hit, too.

Oldcolt 02-14-2023 02:49 PM

The most expensive guard and outside linebacker in the league-with absolutely nothing to show for it. I don't blame anyone but nothing to show for close to 40 million in salary is very hard to overcome. I have to believe that will change next year for both of them. Watched this long enough to know great players have bad years (Nelson) and injuries (Leonard) and come back to their old selves the next year. Both are young with an incredible resumes, they can and should return to their old form......with added motivation

DragonTails 02-14-2023 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 260061)
What cap money are you talking about?

I don't think you have looked at the Colts cap situation since they signed Nelson, Leonard, etc to their contract extensions.

Sure, the Colts can create some extra space for 2023 beyond what is shown on the overthecap or spotrac websites right now by jettisoning Matt Ryan's contract - although that will also create a hefty dead cap hit, too.

I have not.

https://www.si.com/nfl/colts/news/co...20head%20coach

If we keep Ryan and Prior, it won't matter anyway, I'll skip the Sunday Ticket.

Brylok 02-14-2023 03:05 PM

I feel a disturbance in the force, like when Vader felt Kenobi's presence on the Death Star after so many years. But the opposite.

Optimism. It feels foreign but welcome. A weight has been lifted.

Chromeburn 02-14-2023 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 260064)
I feel a disturbance in the force, like when Vader felt Kenobi's presence on the Death Star after so many years. But the opposite.

Optimism. It feels foreign but welcome. A weight has been lifted.

Always optimism with a new coach.

Discflinger 02-14-2023 06:21 PM

The Chicago media dribble about the Colts selling the farm is hysterical. I don’t think any of these QBs warrant a shift with our current position. I also think Irsay was trying to hide who they truly covet with his comment about an Alabama quarterback.

Dam8610 02-14-2023 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Discflinger (Post 260074)
The Chicago media dribble about the Colts selling the farm is hysterical. I don’t think any of these QBs warrant a shift with our current position. I also think Irsay was trying to hide who they truly covet with his comment about an Alabama quarterback.

What comment was that?

Also, Bears fans forget that they don't want to fall below 4, which is a key point in negotiations.


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