I love that Ballard follows the draft board, I think the dude loves it when that pisses of the fan base. We care and he knows it. He also knows that he knows a hell of a lot more than us

Perfect timing I am trying to meal plan right now.

Stupid fingers.


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Proof that we have the best owner.

Even Ballard has his Jimmy voice.

Hmmmm.......the Colts may blur out their draft board in the "With the Next Pick" series - but the Jaguars apparently didn't bother to obfuscate their grades on their draft board in their video series. Several prospect scores were revealed including that of Kwity Paye:

https://wmleader.com/general-other/4...ospect-grades/

Shoddy work, or maybe they just don’t care. Each team is a little different in draft grades. I’m not sure who is calling the shots there now, Urban handling the drafting too?

How hard is it to tell what the colts value? High character, athletic ability, unselfish, team first, play inside the team concept.

Probably a bit of both since teams stay pretty secretive about it, but how much value does it really have after the draft. I suppose you may infer a little bit about future picks, but it seems to me to be minimal

It just showed their final grade and stats. But we now know the jags put a higher grade on Philips despite the concussions over Kwity Paye. So you get some insight into what they value and do not. For a new administration I wouldn’t want that out. Come draft time next year teams may know what they value better and can out maneuver them for players they like. That’s the biggest consequence I can think of.

They seem to have a higher value on floor than a lot of teams, amongst them the Colts. Valuing floor is the quickest and easiest way to arrive at Phillips over Paye, as Phillips is a lot more polished and technically sound coming into the league than Paye is, especially when it comes to pass rush.

The dude's floor is out of the league after one good hit and concussion.

He's unlikely to continue with the shit luck like getting run over by a car.

Really?

Yes, I highly doubt he gets run over by a car again. That was how he got one of the 3 concussions he got.

Nelson will hit him as hard as a Smartcar.

:cool:Not a car, but NFL linemen take hit to the head on the regular, it is a legit concern with him.

Thanks butter. I am sometimes confused whether dam is that dense or not. Its a legit concern especially given the history, whether previous ones were from a car or not.


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The problem with concussions is the more you get the more susceptible you are to getting them.

See also: Austin Collie

The morality of paying a young man who is very susceptible to CTE to do a job where concussions are inevitable is dubious in my mind.

But does that rule apply when the concussions weren’t due to football?

I am hoping this was a joke, I am just not sure based on history.

I’m saying he doesn’t have a history of on field concussions I don’t feel like he puts himself in bad situations or takes a lot of big shots

I think he’s gonna bounce back big this year, dudes still only 23 years old

Who are you talking about?

Trauma to the brain is trauma, it makes no difference how you get it. Do you treat a broken arm differently because one guy fell out of a tree and the other guy fell off his bike? He is at increased risk

Still hard for me to believe that it’s harder to get the 1st concussion than any other concussion, there are different levels of concussion severity which is why some guys have to wait longer to return. A hard hit to the head is gonna cause a concussion regardless of it’s your 1st or your 10th concussion

But I’m jus saying Campbell doesn’t put himself in bad position on the football field

We were discussing Phillips vs. Paye, not Campbell.

I think this is a bit backward. I believe its more like "after the first one, the next ones come easier."

Not that its "harder" for the first, but that once you have had one you are more susceptible to another.

Oh my bad, yea fuck Phillips

That’s what I get for driving and trying to read seen something about a car accident and concussion

My fault

You keep reading and driving at the same time and you are going to end up with a shitload of concussions.

Dont thump your mellon.

Once you have had a concussion, its easier to get another if you continue to do the same stuff that got you the first one. Brain tissue doesnt heal. So if you keep bruising it, it gets worse.

It’s not fair, but a player with a history of concussions well only have more concussions if they keep playing

I don’t think the rule shifts depending on how you got them. The problem is a lineman knocks helmets almost every play. As a DE that might be somewhat less, and depends on how you play. But let’s say even 50% of the snaps you could knock helmets. Then you have the odds of collisions and tackles. He might be ok. I just don’t see Ballard using a first on a potential injury risk. Remember he passed on Sweat who was a better choice than Sin probably bc of medicals.

Concussions are just a tough thing to gamble on. I like Phillips DE play probably more than anyone in this draft, but I don’t know if I would have gambled a first on him.