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Pez 12-09-2025 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kray007 (Post 337394)
You don’t fire a coach because he can’t win with a 4th string Quarterback or a 44 year old future Hall Of Famer who hasn’t played a down in 5 years.

None of that was true when we played the Chiefs, we still threw it 31 times and ran it 19.

None of that was true when we played the Rams, yet 33 passes to 17 runs...

Texans, 27 passes to 21 runs.

We 100% should have lost to the Broncos except for the lucky leaping call. It would have been Steichen's fault for poor clock management.

To be honest, I'm surprised to be so soundly in the minority here.

Lov2fish 12-09-2025 05:04 PM

No, it was working. Give him a full deck and see what happens. If we suck, or collapse then its over.

sherck 12-09-2025 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pez (Post 337409)
To be honest, I'm surprised to be so soundly in the minority here.

While I have a ton of issues with SS (his tendacy to revert to the pass, his terrible understanding of trick play vs just run the dang ball in short yardage situations and some terrible clock management skills), firing him right now would be a terrible idea from CIG and Ballard.

Accountability has to start at the top but you do not fire you coach when you are, technically, still playoff eligable.

Yes, we have lost 4 our of our last 5 after starting 7-1 but that still puts us in reach of hitting the playoffs if we can win some of our last games.

Now, are we going to win them? It looks unlikely but, hey, a former 6th round QB picked from the Midwest also got his chance after seeing the starter go down for the count in mid-season and took his team to greatness. In college:

TB = 29 games / 61.9% / 4,773 yards / 30 TD / 17 INT
RL = 37 games / 63.8% / 7,311 yards / 45 TD / 18 INT
(plus RL had 2,130 rush yards with 36 rush TDs)

Now, am I saying that RL = TB ? Of course not but no one, and I mean NO ONE, thought TB would turn out being what he became based on his college resume. NO ONE.

Just like no one predicts that RL will become a franchise QB either.

I predict that Rivers will stay on the Practice Squad and is here as a much more hands on-the-field mentor/coach for Leonard in order to not jepordize his time line for the HoF.

I think Leonard is our QB for the rest of the season and the Colts want to see what they got.

apballin 12-09-2025 07:10 PM

No

YDFL Commish 12-09-2025 07:12 PM

No

Racehorse 12-09-2025 07:16 PM

Pez, every coach makes good and bad decisions. Steichen is not different. He is a good coach, and will get better with experience. I remember Belichik in Cleveland, Reid in Philly, and there are a few others who teams gave up on that went to another place and took off. I am not saying SS is in the same league as they are (yes, I know the NFL is the same league, but you know what I mean). I am just saying that coaches are given up on too early, just like QBs. Tomlin is a classic example of a guy who benefitted from his situation. The Steelers are one of the best run teams of all time. They mask a lot of his deficiencies. Firing guys is usually not the solution unless they lose the lockerroom, like Reich did, and SS still has the faith of the guys on the roster.

Brylok 12-09-2025 07:20 PM

I'd fire everyone from the GM down, but we can't because we have no first round picks for the next two drafts and who in their right mind would want to take the job(s).
So, No. There's no point.

ChoppedWood 12-09-2025 07:45 PM

No

Hoopsdoc 12-09-2025 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pez (Post 337409)
None of that was true when we played the Chiefs, we still threw it 31 times and ran it 19.

None of that was true when we played the Rams, yet 33 passes to 17 runs...

Texans, 27 passes to 21 runs.

We 100% should have lost to the Broncos except for the lucky leaping call. It would have been Steichen's fault for poor clock management.

To be honest, I'm surprised to be so soundly in the minority here.

Everyone thinks the next coach will be the next Belichick and that’s never the case. Well, aside from the time it WAS Belichick.

It’s far more likely the next guy is Jim Caldwell instead of the second coming of Tony Dungy.

We know Steichen can win with competent quarterback play. It’s just a matter of finding that quarterback.

Racehorse 12-09-2025 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 337436)
No

I am totally shocked. I thought your go-to was fire everyone and ravage their wives and daughters.


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