I remember at the beginning of the year the 1070 the fans sports guys criticizing the Colts for not treating the cap like the Saints do. That the cap isn’t real and you can just go around it if you want forever.

Excellent, Payton will be exposed as a fraud and Denver's going to be bad for at least a decade.

So two people worth all that draft capital. This reminds me of other new owners. They come in and try to fix the team by throwing money around. Sometimes it works. Like the Panthers team Polian built and almost won with. Most of the time it doesn’t though.

Well, they had Bill Polian. That plus money typically equals results.

Sean Payton without Drew Brees is mediocre…prove me wrong Payton!:D

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One of the few good things that came out of the disastrous 2011 season was that it proved beyond a shadow of a doubt just how valuable Peyton Manning was to his team ...... they went 0-13 that year before finally winning a game.

The 2008 Patriots, on the other hand, went 11-5 with Matt Cassell at quarterback when Tom Brady missed the entire season with an injury.

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I don’t want them to go as extreme as the Saints, but Ballard’s straight line method puts the team at a competitive disadvantage to a degree every year. The thought of course being they’ll never have the big down years either. I think it’s BS and a way to be mediocre for a longer period of time.

Or set the record for wins in a decade.

And consistently come up short.

If you think what the Colts did with Manning was a success, then we simply want different things and measure success differently. Manning was short changed in his time here. A more aggressive GM would have won multiple SBs with him.

You are probably a Ted Thompson fan as well.

Yes, we absolutely want different things. I had an absolute blast being a Colts fan during the Polian era. And I didn't come out of it saying, "Man, that sucked, the Giants got two."

I wonder if you think the Chiefs have had five straight stellar seasons moreso because their GM is aggressive or because they drafted Mahomes.