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VeveJones007 04-11-2018 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 62764)
If one of the big 4 slides significantly I think it will be Allen. Accuracy is a pretty damn important thing for an NFL QB and there seems to be plenty of questions about his.

Depends on how his mechanics have improved. All reports I’ve seen are positive. I’m also basing that previous statement from stuff heard on the latest Stick to Football podcast. I would definitely recommend that to anyone interested in draft buzz/player profiles.

Dam8610 04-11-2018 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 62648)
150% of Smith’s ceiling would be the best LB in NFL history.

And I stand by what I said.

rm1369 04-11-2018 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 62771)
Depends on how his mechanics have improved. All reports I’ve seen are positive. I’m also basing that previous statement from stuff heard on the latest Stick to Football podcast. I would definitely recommend that to anyone interested in draft buzz/player profiles.

Interesting listen. Thanks for the tip. Have they been a fairly knowledgeable source in the past?

VeveJones007 04-11-2018 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 62772)
And I stand by what I said.

Alrighty then. Then they better stay at 6 and take him if that’s the assessment.

VeveJones007 04-11-2018 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 62780)
Interesting listen. Thanks for the tip. Have they been a fairly knowledgeable source in the past?

They only started the podcast last year, but Matt Miller has been writing for Bleacher Report for several years and I trust his judgment a lot more than other draft analysts in media.

Chaka 04-11-2018 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 62771)
Depends on how his mechanics have improved. All reports I’ve seen are positive. I’m also basing that previous statement from stuff heard on the latest Stick to Football podcast. I would definitely recommend that to anyone interested in draft buzz/player profiles.

Here's a not-so-positive recent assessment of Allen I was just reading earlier today:

https://www.theringer.com/2018/4/11/...tics-nfl-draft

Cliff Notes version: off the chart measurables, but the advanced stats place him with the likes of Patrick Ramsey, Kyle Boller, and J.P. Losman.

Nevertheless, rumors persist that Cleveland may take him at No. 1

VeveJones007 04-11-2018 03:18 PM

Some interesting rumors here from Tony Pauline. Of note:

http://draftanalyst.com/nfl-draft-news-notes-april-11

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Several people I’ve spoken with speculated that the New York Giants and Buffalo Bills likely have a blueprint in place for a trade that would allow the Bills to move up to the second spot in the draft. They also believe that the trade won’t happen until very late in the process, if it happens at all, as the Giants want to field further offers.
This is heavily caveated, but it's interesting. Really, it's the smart move if NYG doesn't want to draft one of the QBs. I could definitely see a scenario where you see QBs go 1, 2 (NYG or Buffalo), 3, and 4 (Miami or Buffalo).

Chaka 04-11-2018 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 62790)
Some interesting rumors here from Tony Pauline. Of note:

http://draftanalyst.com/nfl-draft-news-notes-april-11



This is heavily caveated, but it's interesting. Really, it's the smart move if NYG doesn't want to draft one of the QBs. I could definitely see a scenario where you see QBs go 1, 2 (NYG or Buffalo), 3, and 4 (Miami or Buffalo).

It would also be an ideal scenario if the Colts actually want to draft someone at #6. Who would Denver take in that case? I'm assuming they wouldn't take Chubb, and I've seen lots of projections where they take Nelson.

Chromeburn 04-11-2018 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 62790)
Some interesting rumors here from Tony Pauline. Of note:

http://draftanalyst.com/nfl-draft-news-notes-april-11



This is heavily caveated, but it's interesting. Really, it's the smart move if NYG doesn't want to draft one of the QBs. I could definitely see a scenario where you see QBs go 1, 2 (NYG or Buffalo), 3, and 4 (Miami or Buffalo).

I wouldn't bet too much on them trading up. With Incognito retiring, they need a lot of picks to re-stock. Perhaps with that 12 pick and their 2nd rounders.

Chromeburn 04-11-2018 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 62690)
In Roquon Smith, I see the next Derrick Brooks. He will come in and perform at high level from day one.

He is the perfect WILL for this defense. Ever heard the phrase "spill to the WILL" ? That is the way this defense will be run. This, he's too small and gets swallowed up by blockers nonsense is complete bullshit. If everybody else does their job the WILL LB will be uncovered almost all of the time.

Cato June wasn't half the athlete and didn't read plays nearly as quickly as Roquon, and we won a SB with him at WILL.

Cato June played at 209 lbs.

Roquon can be a QB for your defense. Edmunds isn't that guy yet. Smith is more advanced mentally and his instincts are off the charts. You will need to protect him and keep blockers off him. But in the right system he will play a long time. He is a perfect fit for our D. He might fall a bit b/c he is specific to a 4-3 defense and likely the will.


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