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natagu23 03-13-2017 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 6305)
I think Hankins is NFL average and that he is not a true 3-4 0-tech NT.

He is the 4-3 defense 1/2-tech NT that the Giants run. He is more used to being a 1-gap shooter rather than being a 2-gap "stuffer." I think he could fit into a Colts defense well that is in serious need of "SOMEONE" at NT but I don't know that he is a great fit.

Bennie Logan from PHI is also a solid choice for the Colts. He is also a 4-3 defense, 1/2-tech NT that saw some 0-tech NT work this year as PHI ran a bit of a hybrid defense.

Nabbing one of those two guys and then pairing him with a mid-round draft choice rookie would help stabilize our NT spot. Most of the following guys should be available in the 4th or 5th rounds:

Dalvin Tomlinson, Alabama
Elijah Qualls, Washington
Vincent Taylor, Oklahoma State
Eddie Vanderdoes, UCLA
DeAngelo Brown, Louisville

DeAngelo Brown is the one that really intrigues me.







I am sure that you can find a lot of positive comments about all the kids that are draftable this year. But I like what I read and see on video about Brown.

Cheers,
None of those guys are true NTs.

Elijah Qualls who has seen time at NT, has sh*tty work ethic and has the build of a 3 tech.

Wyatt 03-13-2017 01:27 PM
@FalconsKelsey
Dontari Poe is scheduled to visit the #Falcons in the next 24 hours

sherck 03-13-2017 01:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by natagu23 (Post 6334)
None of those guys are true NTs.

Elijah Qualls who has seen time at NT, has sh*tty work ethic and has the build of a 3 tech.
Hmmm....that will teach me to grab a list of guys off of Walter Football without checking it over.

You are right, none of the guys on that list played NT in a 3-4 defense with the exception of DeAngelo Brown of Louisville.

Their school depth chart and the video I saw had them in a 3-4 alignment with Brown in the middle on every down I saw.

Back to the drawing board for more options. I still like Brown, however.

Cheers,

Wyatt 03-13-2017 02:14 PM
@pfrumors 38s39 seconds ago
Colts To Meet With LB Kevin Minter http://www.profootballrumors.com/201...b-kevin-minter …

sherck 03-13-2017 02:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 6345)
@pfrumors 38s39 seconds ago
Colts To Meet With LB Kevin Minter http://www.profootballrumors.com/201...b-kevin-minter …
Solid article by ESPN on Minter
Quote:
TEMPE, Ariz. – Talk about peaking at the right time.

Arizona Cardinals inside linebacker Kevin Minter is coming off the best season of his four-year career, just in time for free agency. He finished the 2016 season with 81 tackles, a career-high 3.5 sacks, two pass breakups and a career-high 5.5 disrupted dropbacks, according to ESPN Stats & Information. But it was his development as the defense's signal-caller that improved the most since 2013.

“It was just a lot of learning and growing,” Minter said. “Middle linebacker position, you’re the quarterback [of the defense], and like any quarterback you got to learn and develop because you pretty much got to know what everybody’s doing. You got to know, not only your job, but everybody else’s. You got to line everybody up. You got to know all the checks. You got to kind of anticipate what the offense is doing.”

It took Minter years to get to that point, but he’s finally there.

As a rookie in 2013, he learned under Karlos Dansby. In Year 2, he was mentored by Larry Foote. He assumed the starting job in 2015 and blossomed in his role last season, which has allowed him to enter free agency on a career upswing.

“It took me a while to just get stuff down to where I can really be a caller out there, a real leader out there,” Minter said. “I’ll definitely say it’s an upswing. It’s a hell of an upswing.

“Rookie year, my head was swimming, everything was just super fast. And now everything has slowed down. I’m really into this game, so 'upswing' is definitely an understatement.”

Minter would like to continue his upswing in Arizona.

“Yeah, definitely,” he said. “They groomed me. I’m comfortable here. I love the people here. Really love the community. I would love to be here but it’s not up to me. I’m just going to control what I can control.”

And that’s not free agency. Like the other Cardinals in the 2013 draft class, Minter is experiencing free agency for the first time.

“I’m not necessarily sure how to feel about it,” he said. “I don’t know. It’s a little anxiousness. A little nervousness. Kind of both though. I’m 50/50 on it. I’ve never been in this situation. I’m kinda curious to see how it’s going to play out.”
He is not as good in coverage as I think Hightower, Brown or Hodges would be but he knows the 3-4 defense, could be our defensive QB and would be a good, solid veteran.

He would add stability in the middle and, again, would add another NFL average/good piece to the defense that more and more allows us to pick defensive BPA in each round of the draft.

Cheers,

natagu23 03-13-2017 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 6350)
Solid article by ESPN on Minter

He is not as good in coverage as I think Hightower, Brown or Hodges would be but he knows the 3-4 defense, could be our defensive QB and would be a good, solid veteran.

He would add stability in the middle and, again, would add another NFL average/good piece to the defense that more and more allows us to pick defensive BPA in each round of the draft.

Cheers,
With the huge hole we have at LB, why not go after the best in Brown?

This team can legitimately compete for the AFC South crown and more if we get good pieces in free agency and a solid draft.

Re-tool. Yes.

Rebuild. No. Grigson f**ked us but not that bad

Wyatt 03-13-2017 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by natagu23 (Post 6351)
With the huge hole we have at LB, why not go after the best in Brown?

This team can legitimately compete for the AFC South crown and more if we get good pieces in free agency and a solid draft.

Re-tool. Yes.

Rebuild. No. Grigson f**ked us but not that bad
While it's easy to nitpick every move that Ballard is making (or isn't), we only see a little bit of what is going on.

Perhaps we can't see the forest for the trees so to speak.

sherck 03-13-2017 02:59 PM
While I prefer Brown or Hodges, I will trust Ballard until he shows that he should not be trusted.

So far, he is doing fine.

Cheers,

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rcubed 03-13-2017 03:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 6352)
While it's easy to nitpick every move that Ballard is making (or isn't), we only see a little bit of what is going on.

Perhaps we can't see the forest for the trees so to speak.
what are you talking about!? the members on this board know far more than NFL front office guys.

Wyatt 03-13-2017 03:25 PM
@AdamSchefter 56s56 seconds ago
To fill expected void, Chiefs and former Eagles DT Bennie Logan reach agreement on 1-year deal, per source. Looks like Dontari Poe moves on.

sherck 03-13-2017 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 6360)
@AdamSchefter 56s56 seconds ago
To fill expected void, Chiefs and former Eagles DT Bennie Logan reach agreement on 1-year deal, per source. Looks like Dontari Poe moves on.
Well, darn it.

The well is drying up at NT.

Draft class, here we come.

Cheers,

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GoBigBlue88 03-13-2017 03:57 PM
Guys, this team has a billion needs. They're not fixing everything in one offseason.

smitty46953 03-13-2017 04:04 PM
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@JasonLaCanfora

Some movement on the RB market: Robert Turbin is going back to Indy. 2yr deal worth up to $4.1M

:cool:

Puck 03-13-2017 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 6363)
Guys, this team has a billion needs. They're not fixing everything in one offseason.
Depends on how you define "Fixing". It appears that every crucial position as far as needling upgraded is being addressed on defense. NT CB and S are the areas that are left.

Think Jones is staying to help the new Guys learn this D

OT and OG and TE offense is in prey good shape.

Next yr there will be more needs that open up and the cycle continues


Ballard has adept on more moves Tami ever expected and is still working on things

smitty46953 03-13-2017 04:19 PM
Personally I am not as comfortable with our right side of the offensive line as most. :cool:

Puck 03-13-2017 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 6374)
Personally I am not as comfortable with our right side of the offensive line as most. :cool:

I'm not either. But there aren't really any upgrades in FA. maybe they bring Thornton back??

They either trust Clark or he will get replaced in the draft....

Any chance the can make a trade? Dorsett maybe?

Puck 03-13-2017 04:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 6372)
Jason La Canfora‏Verified account
@JasonLaCanfora

Some movement on the RB market: Robert Turbin is going back to Indy. 2yr deal worth up to $4.1M

:cool:
This makes us set at RB IMO. no more need to even think about taking one early in the draft.

Ballard is doing some good work on paper

Dam8610 03-13-2017 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 6381)
This makes us set at RB IMO. no more need to even think about taking one early in the draft.

Ballard is doing some good work on paper
Christine Michael is a guy I'd like them to look at. Shouldn't be as expensive as Lacy, but should provide similar production.

Dewey 5 03-13-2017 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 6373)
Depends on how you define "Fixing". It appears that every crucial position as far as needling upgraded is being addressed on defense. NT CB and S are the areas that are left.

Think Jones is staying to help the new Guys learn this D

OT and OG and TE offense is in prey good shape.

Next yr there will be more needs that open up and the cycle continues


Ballard has adept on more moves Tami ever expected and is still working on things
Hopefully a HC will be one of those needs.

Dewey 5 03-13-2017 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 6382)
Christine Michael is a guy I'd like them to look at. Shouldn't be as expensive as Lacy, but should provide similar production.
I wouldn't want Lacy if he were played for a $1.00. Fat & lazy. We had that once.

natagu23 03-13-2017 06:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 6372)
Jason La Canfora‏Verified account
@JasonLaCanfora

Some movement on the RB market: Robert Turbin is going back to Indy. 2yr deal worth up to $4.1M

:cool:
Good deal. I like Turbin.

I wish he got more touches last year.

Spike 03-13-2017 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 6392)
Hopefully a HC will be one of those needs.
It will be, you can't fix stupid!

Spike 03-13-2017 06:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Puck (Post 6373)
Depends on how you define "Fixing". It appears that every crucial position as far as needling upgraded is being addressed on defense. NT CB and S are the areas that are left.

Think Jones is staying to help the new Guys learn this D

OT and OG and TE offense is in prey good shape.

Next yr there will be more needs that open up and the cycle continues


Ballard has adept on more moves Tami ever expected and is still working on things
You typing in code now Puck, or did the Russian's hack your account?

rcubed 03-13-2017 06:51 PM
^^^ probably getting his drink on.

FatDT 03-13-2017 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 6382)
Christine Michael is a guy I'd like them to look at. Shouldn't be as expensive as Lacy, but should provide similar production.
Seems too dumb to pick up a playbook. There's a reason teams keep giving up on him.

smitty46953 03-13-2017 06:54 PM
Report: Colts hosted DL Margus Hunt, C Brian Schwenke on visits

:cool:

FatDT 03-13-2017 06:57 PM
Hunt is one of those guys that's a great athlete, big and strong, but just isn't very good at football. I doubt we'll sign him.

Schwenke is a former Pats center, right?

natagu23 03-13-2017 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 6409)
Report: Colts hosted DL Margus Hunt, C Brian Schwenke on visits

:cool:
Margus Hunt is ass.

Brian Schmuck...yeah...no

smitty46953 03-13-2017 07:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 6410)
Hunt is one of those guys that's a great athlete, big and strong, but just isn't very good at football. I doubt we'll sign him.

Schwenke is a former Pats center, right?
I think Schwenke was a disappointment to the Titans ... :cool:

rcubed 03-13-2017 07:07 PM
come on ballard, dont go grigson on us.

natagu23 03-13-2017 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 6414)
come on ballard, dont go grigson on us.
Thats what i was thinking.

YDFL Commish 03-13-2017 07:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 6382)
Christine Michael is a guy I'd like them to look at. Shouldn't be as expensive as Lacy, but should provide similar production.
Why? What has he done, but fail everywhere he's been?

smitty46953 03-13-2017 07:23 PM
Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet · 44s45 seconds ago

Source: DE Margus Hunt agreed to terms on a 2 year deal with the Indianapolis Colts


This guy sucked with Bengals ... :cool:

YDFL Commish 03-13-2017 07:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 6417)
Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet · 44s45 seconds ago

Source: DE Margus Hunt agreed to terms on a 2 year deal with the Indianapolis Colts


This guy sucked with Bengals ... :cool:
Yeah, but, but, but Pagano and staff will coach him up:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

sherck 03-13-2017 07:34 PM
Meh...I cannot believe that Hunt will make it out of camp.

He has been a 4-3 DE his entire career so a transition to OLB or 3-4 DE seems fraught with peril.

He is a bit of kick blocking machine with 3 blocked kicks in 2016 (2 PAT and 1 FG) so perhaps he is a ST body but...

Cheers,

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smitty46953 03-13-2017 07:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 6410)
Hunt is one of those guys that's a great athlete, big and strong, but just isn't very good at football. I doubt we'll sign him.
We did .... Has shown nothing in 4 years with Bengals !!! :cool:

sherck 03-13-2017 07:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 6423)
We did .... Has shown nothing in 4 years with Bengals !!! :cool:
I read a couple of articles about Hunt. Most were saying that they saw "improvement" and that he was good on Special Teams.

But, he now has to bulk up to be a 3-4 DE or slim down to be a 3-4 OLB; neither position has he played before.

I see this as a Special Teams signing.

Cheers,

Dam8610 03-13-2017 07:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sherck (Post 6425)
I read a couple of articles about Hunt. Most were saying that they saw "improvement" and that he was good on Special Teams.

But, he now has to bulk up to be a 3-4 DE or slim down to be a 3-4 OLB; neither position has he played before.

I see this as a Special Teams signing.

Cheers,
What are the terms, oh cap guru?

sherck 03-13-2017 07:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 6426)
What are the terms, oh cap guru?
I have not seen anything yet.

Cheers,

Dam8610 03-13-2017 07:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 6416)
Why? What has he done, but fail everywhere he's been?
Been a successful backup, and better than Turbin.


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