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FatDT 04-23-2019 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 117028)
This actually worries me. Gary has great traits, but I'm concerned about players with traits who don't have production.

Gary is just a terrible prospect. With so much athleticism, he didn't play well in college. Players with great athletic traits should dominate lesser competition in spite of bad technique, poor football knowledge, whatever it is they're lacking. Gary didn't do that. Add this ongoing shoulder injury and I wouldn't draft him until the 3rd at the earliest, with the idea that his rookie year is basically a redshirt year while he gets healthy and works on being better at football.

Chromeburn 04-23-2019 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 117017)
I have no problem going offensive line early, even the first round. This teams identity is being built around a dominant offensive line. These five guys will not play every game. Start to make that dominance injury proof.

I believe running back is devalued because coaching are still figuring out how to get the most out of them with the emphasis so much on passing. If you see them in sort of the same light as the NBA is seeing players, position-less it can help. If the guy has the ability to line up outside and be a receiving threat, can block and run well I still think there is a place for a running back in the first round. I'm not sold on Jacobs because he lacks break away speed. That said, Polian said you need playmakers and he appears to be one.

My perfect draft would be heavy on defense (esp line) with at least one offensive lineman in the first two days.

I would prefer they go BPA. I assume that will be defense since it is a good defensive draft. But if they go oline I won’t be too upset. I was actually looking at Garret Bradbury and wondering what he would look like with this line. That guy has a high ceiling and can really move for a big man.

VeveJones007 04-23-2019 01:50 PM

We've mentioned him briefly, but I could see some scenarios where Chris Lindstrom is an early 2nd round pick for the Colts. He could have enough versatility to line up anywhere from C/RG/RT, which would offer a lot of valuable depth for the Colts.

smitty46953 04-23-2019 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 117028)
This actually worries me. Gary has great traits, but I'm concerned about players with traits who don't have production.

Yes, I have just been hoping someone else before us picks him. If he falls out of first round our chances of getting Wilkins decreases. :cool:

Coltsalr 04-23-2019 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 117039)
We've mentioned him briefly, but I could see some scenarios where Chris Lindstrom is an early 2nd round pick for the Colts. He could have enough versatility to line up anywhere from C/RG/RT, which would offer a lot of valuable depth for the Colts.

Too much of a luxury for my tastes.

God, I can't believe I now consider the OL to be a luxury.

Discflinger 04-23-2019 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 117058)
Too much of a luxury for my tastes.

God, I can't believe I now consider the OL to be a luxury.

Welcome to Ballardville.

FatDT 04-23-2019 04:15 PM

I know some of you are against the idea of Dexter Lawrence for the Colts. I get it. But I've been researching all the Clemson DL prospects. Vevejones I am not doing this to mess with you.

This kid had 7 sacks his freshman year. After that season, with Wilkins next to him, he was asked to play nose and was taken out on pass rush downs in favor of their "racecar" package.

He ran a 5.0 40 at 342 lbs. The guy could lose 15 lbs and still be the biggest man on the field most of the time.

Is he really just a 0/1 tech? Or is that the role he was asked to play on one of the most stacked college DLs of all-time? If he was a 3 tech for Auburn, with the same stats this year as his freshman year, would we be talking about top 10 pick Dexter Lawrence, with no chance we could possibly draft him?

I think that possibility is why people are talking about Lawrence to the Colts at 26 or 34.

JAFF 04-23-2019 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 117034)
I would prefer they go BPA. I assume that will be defense since it is a good defensive draft. But if they go oline I won’t be too upset. I was actually looking at Garret Bradbury and wondering what he would look like with this line. That guy has a high ceiling and can really move for a big man.

This is a very low quality draft for O linemen. Throwing first round money at a 3rd round talent doesn't make sense. I wouldn't be shocked if the Colts traded out of the first round to get more picks

Discflinger 04-23-2019 04:52 PM

I don't know anything about what TEs are out there, but with what Frank likes to do with the offense, I really wouldn't be surprised to see one in the third or shortly thereafter.

VeveJones007 04-23-2019 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 117077)
I know some of you are against the idea of Dexter Lawrence for the Colts. I get it. But I've been researching all the Clemson DL prospects. Vevejones I am not doing this to mess with you.

This kid had 7 sacks his freshman year. After that season, with Wilkins next to him, he was asked to play nose and was taken out on pass rush downs in favor of their "racecar" package.

He ran a 5.0 40 at 342 lbs. The guy could lose 15 lbs and still be the biggest man on the field most of the time.

Is he really just a 0/1 tech? Or is that the role he was asked to play on one of the most stacked college DLs of all-time? If he was a 3 tech for Auburn, with the same stats this year as his freshman year, would we be talking about top 10 pick Dexter Lawrence, with no chance we could possibly draft him?

I think that possibility is why people are talking about Lawrence to the Colts at 26 or 34.

I’ve harped enough on the scheme fit side of Lawrence, but how about the PED bust? Do we really think Ballard is going to spend such a high pick on someone who got busted for PEDs?


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