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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 355988)

Why do we only have one deep threat? You cannot tell me that there were not players available (maybe there still are) that could be a deep threat for the Colts. Other teams seem to always find players we can't or won't.

Anthony Gould runs a 4.39 40. Seems like he could go deep.

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 355992)

Anthony Gould runs a 4.39 40. Seems like he could go deep.

We drafted a guy that runs a 4.3 flat

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 355985)

I was saying was why Jones doesn't get the slack Mahomes gets and it isn't because KC has such wonderful fans and the Colts don't as you insinuated.

o

I was not saying or insinuating anything about Chiefs fans. I said that Colts fans would lose their minds if Daniel Jones did the same thing that one of the greatest quarterback ever did in a very basic situation in the closing moments of a game.

I apologize if I inappropriately extrapolated regarding your feelings about Richardson and Jones.

o

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 355998)

Its having conversations when we are not face to face. Makes anything suble impossible. Both things are true. I would prefer AR over DJ but that is only because right now i would have faith in neither but feel AR still has possibilities and DJ is who DJ is. Not great, not bad just an average NFL QB. I also think once you have success with a team it buys greater forgiveness of mistakes. Every QB does stupid shit occasionally and fans react differently to the exact same mistakes. Human nature and in that you are correct. I'm happy that you interact with me and occasionally give me shit. All my friends do.

If Jones isn’t being clean and consistent with the offense I’d rather see AR in there, he may turn it over but he scares the defense and any play can be a TD

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 355921)

It's obvious that Jones cannot handle pressure, but it's also obvious that Steichen has not designed plays to help him. Since halfway through last season, teams have pressed him on the majority of plays. Steichen needs to design plays that can succeed against that kind of defense. Plays that can give Jones confidence and get him in a rhythm. He's going to see this press defense almost exclusively until he proves he can deal with it. Quick crossing routes, draw plays,, etc. Steichen should be capable of coming up with ways to defeat this pressure. If you're short on WRs, use multiple TEs.

While I agree with most of this, I would still like to make a few points.

There really is no such thing as a quick crossing route. Generally they take time to develop.
The offense is doing most of what you're suggesting. The problem is, the defense knbows what's coming.
We need Keenan Allen for the slants, that we couldn't use Sunday.
The O-Line played like crap in pass pro Sunday. No excuses there.
A misnomer that some fans have, is that you can't beat a cover zero heavy pass rush or blitz deep. This is totally untrue. You can run double sluggus, with max protect from your RB and TE's. It has to be ti,img patterns though. The QB has to see his best matchup and just let it fly, and let his WR go get it.

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 356122)

While I agree with most of this, I would still like to make a few points.

There really is no such thing as a quick crossing route. Generally they take time to develop.
The offense is doing most of what you're suggesting. The problem is, the defense knbows what's coming.
We need Keenan Allen for the slants, that we couldn't use Sunday.
The O-Line played like crap in pass pro Sunday. No excuses there.
A misnomer that some fans have, is that you can't beat a cover zero heavy pass rush or blitz deep. This is totally untrue. You can run double sluggus, with max protect from your RB and TE's. It has to be ti,img patterns though. The QB has to see his best matchup and just let it fly, and let his WR go get it.

Without Pierce we have no deep threat. That’s as big an issue as any the offense has right now.

But they have to at least TRY to throw the ball downfield every now and then. Dulin is fast, have him run a go route and chuck it deep once or twice.

There has to at least be the POSSIBILITY of throwing deep.

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 356130)

I'm right there with ya dude. Keep the defense honest, take a chance, trust your guys. Hell, maybe you get a PI?